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NEW-X-57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted September 03, 2003 12:17 AM  
OK guys, I run in a class called GEN-X. 4 banger front wheel drives, stock engines, but chassis can be worked with SOME.
This is my first year and I'm doin alright. I'm consistantly runnin and finishing 3rd or 4th in a field averaging 16 cars. Always behind the same 2 or 3 guys.
I need some set-up advice, and am hoping some of you can make some suggestions. I'm getting a "push" on the back side (last 1/3) of the turns. I'm pretty sure I need to stiffen up the right side suspension, but not sure how much. Also considerring "toeing out" the front wheels.
I'm not a car mechanic although I am mechanically inclined. I've been a helicopter mechanic in the Navy for the last 19 years. So I learn pretty quick.
Any suggestions/experiences shared would be greatly appreciated.
3rd place is better than 16th, but I don't like going to the track feeling that's the best I can hope for!!!

Sam
NEW-X-57

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Sam
NEW-X-57

USAUS Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted September 03, 2003 08:56 AM  
Sam
I run a Dodge Colt (fwd) in Minstock and to solve our problems we run 8" wheels outside and 7" inside. I also run a trick called leftfoot braking. That is I keep my right flat on the accelerator and just LIGHTLY tap the brake with the left to settle to car.Now I will tell you it may make you spin the first few times until you get use to doing it. This is because you generally dont have the fine touch with the left until you practice enough. Oh yes We also run tyre pressures around 18 front and 10-15 rear. Works for us BUT every car and track is different but I hope this gives you somethings to think about and try.

NEW-X-57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted September 03, 2003 10:17 AM  
We're limited to wheel width's of 6 inches and tread width of 7 inches. I've already got the most agressive tires allowed, and they are new (3 heats and 3 mains).
I'm already using the two-foot method and it helped alot. I just need a little more bite on the back sides of the turns to get rid of the rest of the push.
I ran the first race with fronts at 20 PSI and rolled the right front off the bead. I went to 25 and that has held so far.
Do Colt's run six bangers? If so they should have a heavier shock tower, but still bolt up to a Daytona. There are some Colt's at our local yard and I could get the towers off one pretty easily. Putting one on the right front could make a differance. Maybe a gas shock on the back right. Do you think the tower off a small Dodge van would be too stiff? Just thinkin here.
Thanks for the input!

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Sam
NEW-X-57

NEW-X-57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted September 03, 2003 10:22 AM  
One other thing. I have the right front swaybar disconnected. Should I try re-connecting it? I was originally told that disconnecting it would help prevent the push. Would connecting it make my problem worse?

sideways
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 715
posted September 03, 2003 09:00 PM  
If you connect the right front sway bar it will stiffen the right front.I dont know anything about front wheel drive car for racing but I do know it will stiffen it.And it would be a cheap try in order to see if stiffer is what ya want.

NEW-X-57
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted September 03, 2003 10:46 PM  
I went out to the local "yard" today and pulled a strut off a bigger car and put it on. In the process I discovered that the old shock was blown, which COULD account for my losing my half lap lead and finishing fourth. The spring has one more wrap and the shock is stronger. Hopin this is the solution. Also canting the wheels a bit. We'll see how it goes on Saturday night. If this don't do it, I'll be lookin for more advice on Monday.

[This message has been edited by NEW-X-57 (edited September 03, 2003).]

SLEEPY GOMEZ
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 295
posted September 03, 2003 11:00 PM  
With a push coming out of a turn I think you may need more stagger in front. If tire rules allow get sizes where you can have 1, 2, 3, and 4 inches of stagger (tire circumfrence) with the small tire on the left. Try them all until you find the right combination. SLEEPY

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