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Author Topic:   no more unibodies
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted August 08, 2003 03:09 PM  
whats a guy to do - our track now allows jig cars to compete with our modified minis. these are latemodel sportsman chassis cars(full size) with 13" wheels (side sheet metal shortened) and outlaw 4 cylinder motors and man are they fast. what should we do? build one to compete and not race but a few tracks or push for the new cars to become the standard at all tracks.

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted August 08, 2003 03:29 PM  
in other words - is this our future for ministocks. do we support it by building one or do we fight it and keep using stock chassis cars? it would be a real shame to spend that kind of money and not be able to race it because no one supports the idea.

USAUS Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 09, 2003 08:12 AM  
FIGHT!!! The idea of Ministocks was to have a relatively cheap form of motorsport that many could enjoy. The cars you are describing DO NOT belong in Ministock but in a separate catergory. **** threaten to boycott the tracks that run them and see his $$$ drop because of less cars - he want wont to lose money.

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 104
posted August 14, 2003 07:22 AM  
I agree. There should be two separate classes. In many repects it is actually cheaper to build, race and maintain a full-tube car as opposed to a unibody. However, that is a separate issue.

I believe the only real way to have an inexpensive, entry-level budget class is to have a dollar claim on the cars but make it realistic amount. Then come up with a fair method to have the claim work as intended. This keeps everyone equal. Have a few basic rules in regard to the type of car but concentrate on safety...roll cage installation, proper seat belts, fuel cell, driver protection, etc.

The promoters will support any class if there are enough cars. More racers mean more money from the pit gate. That money is used to pay the purse. A pit pass costs the racer the same amount whether they are racing an entry-level mini or a late-model. Generally, there are many more of the "cheaper" class cars than the "high-dollar" ones. The pay-out or purse is less. Sometimes, the entry-level cars race for only a trophy!

Also consider too that racers bring family and friends into the grandstands and at the concessions. No promoter or track owner will turn their back on those fans...and last very long.

I suspect what has happened in SpeedyD1's case is a decline of mini-stocks in numbers at the track. Some of the racers, who have recognized the cost of building a competitive unibody mini, have pushed to have a new class. As SpeedyD1 has indicated they are much faster too so they will gain support of the fans. Prize money may be an issue. Do these jig cars receive more money?

I recommend either building a car for this new class or band together with other entry-level racers and form your own group. You may have to be a "touring" series and race at different tracks in your area. Perhaps race on a different night than the other classes.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

Best regards,
Gerry Dedonis
Kansas Racing Products Inc.


Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted August 17, 2003 12:02 PM  
we have around 20 -25 stock mini's every week and usually around 12 - 17 modifieds.
what happened was the track started an outlaw class and couldnt draw enough cars to run the class so they allowed them to "move down". they promised them a place to run before they built them. now we have to run with them. i dont know whether I should build one and risk not being able to race somewhere else, or continue to "follow the leader."

Dirt Freak

Total posts: 370
posted August 17, 2003 07:40 PM  
following the leader $ucks but from past experience I wouldnt build a new car without some rules for the next 2 or 3 yrs in writing.....Towman

[This message has been edited by towmandan (edited August 17, 2003).]

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