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staylor3
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted May 01, 2003 02:53 PM  
I'm looking at getting into racing. There is a dirt track just down the street from me. I figured the best class to get started in is Pony Stock.

I wanted to know what kind of suggestions you guys have for when I start looking to buy a Pinto and getting into racing. I know there is a lot of experience here, so I wanted to here your suggestions, based on experience. Thanks,

staylor3

b4racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 626
posted May 01, 2003 04:10 PM  
first check the cage for any damage. Cracked welds anything. make sure it has good belts and seat and fuel cell. On the motor I would ask how much it has been bored and find out as much about it as possible. anything over 40 over bore I would pass on. Ask who built the car. Also ask for extra parts and lastly make sure it is leagal at the track you plan to run. Later BObby

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KSGerry
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 376
posted May 01, 2003 04:36 PM  
Unless you have your heart set on racing a mini, I suggest you purchase and race some sort of a full size car. Minis or pony stocks can be more expensive to buy and maintain as there is a shortage of aftermarket components.

Are you working for a team now and want to race yourself? If not, spend a year or so to get familiar with the cars and teams then you will know the better cars from the junk. Many teams will sell off their cars at the end of the season, mid-year if they aren't having fun or run out of money. Almost all of them are looking for track and garage help. Pick one of the top runners to learn the right way to race and see if they need help. Don't forget the open-wheel teams too.

Just my humble opinion.
Good luck and safe racing.
Have fun too!

Regards,
Gerry Dedonis
Kansas Racing Products Inc.

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shadoza
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 123
posted May 01, 2003 08:29 PM  
When I bought my pinto, i didnt know anything about racing. Just what I learned from playstation and nintendo. The guy at the track announced he had a ministock for sale 900 dollars. I sold my wife and kids, went down and picked up that pinto. Everything seemed alright, figured it would be a cheap class to race. Well not really, if you think about it, i bought my car for 900 dollars, and I am racing against guys that have 7,000 dollars sunk into their engines alone. I dont know about your track, but at my track, the rules are pretty much stock, but the rules dont matter much when nobody enforces them. If you are looking into getting into racing for the first time, I would consider a pure stock that you can later turn into a street stock. Pure stock (Cruizers)are really cheap to get ahold of and put on the track. Like 500 bucks around here. Heck, there is even one for sale right now for 75 dollars, but I dont I have ever seen that particular car finish a race, HA. But if you have your heart set on a 4cylinder car, I wouldnt get a pinto, try out the 80's era mustangs. Parts are much easier to come by. GOOD LUCK

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Hopalong
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 21
posted May 01, 2003 08:35 PM  
WE HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A INDURO 4CYL CLASS HERE IN NY. ALL THEY NEED IS ROLL BARS RACING SEAT BELTS AND RACING SEAT.THEY ARE EASILY TRANSFERED TO A NEW CAR WHENEVER YOU NEED ONE. JUST GET A CHEEP 4CYL CAR AND RUN,NOTHING FANCY TO START WITH WOULD BE MY ADVICE.HOPE YOU HAVE A SIMULAR CLASS THERE.

HOP

trey_#23
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 150
posted May 01, 2003 09:46 PM  
Trey and KSgerry are right on the money. This is not a cheap class to be competitive in. And often what happens is alot of people are realizing this and either starting in a larger division or moving up to a larger division. Then promoters start to look at dropping the mini stock class. The thing to do is start in factory or street stock. Start scratch for awhile until you are comfortable driving. Then charge on to the front. What ever car you decide to buy make **** sure all the safety gear is in good order: cage, seat, and fuel cell.
later
Dtr21

dirttracker98
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 284
posted May 14, 2003 05:46 AM  
it don't make any difference what class you start in,there is always "BIG SPENDERS" in every class of racing,that don't care about the costs,that is,untill they get "OUT DOLLARED",there are some that find a class that they can dominate and spend their racing career rite there,everybody wants to be the "big fish in the small pond & not the small fish in the big pond"......speed costs,how fast you go depends on the size of your wallet!!!

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 115
posted May 14, 2003 04:08 PM  
That’s some good advice up above although I can’t say I agree w/ it all. I started last year, seen a mini stock down the street that said, “race ready” $800. So I say what the heck, sounds like a pretty cheap hobby. Anyway I buy the car and head out to the track sat night (first time ever racing) and it turns out that the car was “track ready” NOT “race ready” –it’s a STOCK 2.3 ford (early 80’S) m-stang) I was getting dusted bad. (But it was fun!!) It’s like dtr21 said the guy’s w/ bottomless wallets were cleaning house-week in week out. We have your standard ministock rules (posted under mini fanatics) but they were not enforced. But as I said for starting out this has been great for me. I’ve put over twice what I paid for the car in upgrading the engine (and it shows—but still ain’t going to beat the MONEY cars)—but I have learned A LOT both at the track from the other drivers willing to share there knowledge (some-most w/ the bottomless wallets- try and keep everything to them selves –like it’s top secret), and from this site- the guy’s here are a world of help (most w/ post up above here) I learn something new from them every day, as you can see from some of my other post. What I can’t agree w/ is it would be better/cheaper to start in a higher class, I think it would be just as costly if not more so. As for parts I have no problem finding them at local salvage yards (may just be my area) or at standard part stores like auto zone. Then you have sites like racer Walsh- that dedicate a whole section of their catalog to just mini-stocks. I’d say get that mini-stock (keep the class alive) and go out there and give it **** . A ford stang or pinto would be good starter, as there is a lot of potential for them (if you got the money) and “I think” parts are fairly easy to obtain. Well good luck and keep us posted
Take care
Eric (mini2.3)

shadoza
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 123
posted May 14, 2003 08:06 PM  
True, Mini, True. But the parts for a small block chevy are much cheaper than for a 2.3 Ford. Also, not to down ministock racing... but if you start out in a pure stock (bomber/cruizer) full size class, you can easily move up to street stocks with that same car when you are ready. Thats the point I was trying to make. BUT these ministocks are FAST. I was told that a few weeks ago, the fastest ministock was only 3/10 of a second slower than the fastest super truck. In a few years I am going to get my own ministock again and hopefully be the one to catch. But it will be a mustang, not a pinto. I suggest a mustang to anyone getting into the sport.

staylor3
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted May 15, 2003 02:39 PM  
I've heard some contradictions to Shadoza suggestion. It's my understanding that the Mustangs are fairly heavy. I'd rather be under weight and be able to add where I want than to be over right from the start.

I could be wrong about this. I have never owned either one. But at my track there are about 20 pintos and only 2 mustangs. I would think there is a reason behind this.

staylor3

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b4racing
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 626
posted May 15, 2003 04:15 PM  
I will tell you that my mustang weighs 2100 without me in it we have a 2300 rule or else I could find another hundred to lighten. Now any car can be made fast it is not just the car but the whole set up. BObby

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