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Author Topic:   light clutch or 2500 bottom
Jhurlbert
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted April 28, 2002 03:25 PM  
Have a 2300 ford stang. Handles great but it needs more. I have the cam, efi intake, and holley 4412. What would be more bang for the buck a lightweight clutch (tilton, etc..) or build a 2500cc stroker bottom end.

AJ GARBE70
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 203
posted April 29, 2002 11:52 AM  
well lets see the lightweight clutch and flywheel the whole works will help some if you have the money to buy in take your flywheel and have it cut down what kind of cam stock ect.you can get a good bottom end 2500cc from raceeng rods pistons and crank for $1000maybe a littel less just depends on what you want also do you have your head cut any the first thing i would do is cut the head about 150 thous get a good cam set of valves the whole combo and a good timming belt then see if you need to buy all the other stuff that you dont realley need

BIGG C
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 114
posted April 29, 2002 08:50 PM  
A J I am glad that you have learned from experience, and have been through the BIG motor phase. Key is to learn to drive and pass Missy24. BIGG C

AJ GARBE70
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 203
posted April 29, 2002 09:17 PM  
hey bigg c who are you have you been at baxter if so what #are you missey and garry gore have been racing at golden mountain let me know good luck

techmaster35
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 265
posted April 29, 2002 10:14 PM  
esslinger is all i got to say. esslinger all the way if you got the money. a fully ported and polished ranger pickup head and header from a ranger too. port and polish the intake with a 575 cfm 2bbl polished and reworked motorcraft carb. a big cam with low vaccum and run a vacuum pump to run the power brakes. full msd ignition system. or just go with what the other guys said.

KWTracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted April 29, 2002 10:19 PM  
Given the two choices, a 2500 bottom end will give you the most performance. A lightened flywheel always helps. Eliminate all the rotating weight possible. BUT do not cut down your flywheel. You know this is supposed to be a fun hobby, and you would feel really stupid and not have much fun if the flywheel comes apart and removes one of your feet. Not worth the performance gain. Get a 10000 rpm flywheel or something like it. If you don't have the money for a high dollar one, use the stock escort wheel. Much lighter than your. just my .03

Jhurlbert
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted April 30, 2002 02:38 PM  
Thanks for the info. We have been racing for a few years, but this is the first time in this forum. I have a big hyd roller and valves. One thing I am looking into is the power valve. We didn't check it when we put on the efi intake, that might give me a little more off the corner. Will see this weekend. Thanks again

KWTracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted April 30, 2002 09:34 PM  
Is the cam degreed properly? Advancing the cam will give you more bottom end. Just don't go past about 6 deg. Yes, the power valve can affect the car coming off the corner as well.

AJ GARBE70
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 203
posted May 01, 2002 10:25 AM  
WEEL KWT TRACER I HAVE HEARED OF PEOPLE CUTTING THE FLYWHEEL DOWN AND NOT HAVE ANY PROBLUMS EVER OUT OF THEM I HAVE NOT TRIED IT YET I WAS JUST GIVING HIM SOME HELP BUT I WOULD BUY ONE FROME GOLDSTAR OR 10000 RPM UI WOULD RATHER GO WITH THE RIGHT SETUP

KWTracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted May 01, 2002 05:59 PM  
I wasn't trying to step on you toes there AJ. I just don't like the idea of cutting those stock flywheel down. I have seen them come apart. Not too often, but not worth the chance. Its just most new folks don't understand that the stock wheel and the aftermarker racing flywheels are made out of different grade material. Like you said, I would stay with a racing flywheel, or if your budget doesn't allow run the escort.

hazer
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted May 03, 2002 07:16 PM  
get a light flywheel(cost about 300 bucks), the stock 2.5 crank is alot heavier than a 2.3. if you really want to use 2.5 crank you had better have a real good head or you will be backing up.best money spend would be a on small journal 2.3 block, good rod bolts, some keith black pistons,ram light flywheel,stock clutch,cut head at least .150, and call schendiers for cam,tfi dist,this combo works nice for not much cash....ps..if your not running a scatter sheid do not cut your flywheel down..if you ever see one come apart it will scare you to death...if you want to be fast get car to handle

wildcat4257
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 127
posted May 11, 2002 03:09 AM  
i wouldn't take two esslinger bottoms for my one race engineering bottom. not enough diff. to justify the diff. in money. however an esslinger haed is the way to go. unless youknow a guy named J.D.

AJ GARBE70
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 203
posted May 12, 2002 12:27 PM  
yes jd is good at his heads anyways that what i here also richard johnson is a good one to run good timming belts when you cut a bunch off your heads

dirttracker98
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 284
posted May 13, 2002 09:55 AM  
Do both of those things,and show 'em you came there to RACE,not just play around in the dirt!!!

Jhurlbert
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted May 14, 2002 05:55 PM  
EFI intake is not for me. I went back to the old one. This week was slow and I'am going to rebuild the lower end and switch to the tfi dist. any advice thanks

KWTracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted May 21, 2002 08:15 PM  
If it were me I would Take the head down since your pulling the motor apart and mill it all you can. Get a schneider or Johnson cam, put the efi back on. Stay with the 2.3 crank and put in some light weight pistons, maybe some 5.7 rods (depending on what size track) and good rod bolts. A light flywheel always helps. Esslinger stuff is way too much money. TFI is a good choice, I have found little difference with the MSD. With a good machineist and the right parts you can make nice power at a reasonable cost, especially compared to Big E or the 2.5 route.

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