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jreracing
Dirt Roller

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posted February 04, 2005 02:31 AM  
I Have A Chance To Buy A 2002 TNT 4-Link Car Rolling, At A Fair Price,Has Any One Run This Type Of Car Before,Any Yea's Or Na's About it, Thanks JRERACING

GO 24
Dirt Freak

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posted February 04, 2005 12:08 PM  
I'm pretty sure bizkit use to run a TNT chassis so you may want to get in contact with him. Here's his website: http://www.kellyhanveyracing.com/

Otherwise I've never heard anything bad about them.

Ego Racing
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posted February 08, 2005 06:57 AM  
We are running against 5 of them here. All of them put together have won a total of 2 heat races in 5 years. The ones here run the down tubes on the front like a down tube sprint car. The fabrication leaves something to be desired. The newest car looks like a Rocket and is not that bad. I heard from Ovalcraft that they are selling them and some guys are winning with them but I haven't seen it here.

26 racing
Dirt Newbie

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posted February 12, 2005 06:44 PM  
Contact Steve Russell in pontotoc,MS he has been running the TNT cars here for awhile.

bizkit
Dirt Maniac

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posted February 24, 2005 06:02 AM  
Sorry for jsut now looking at this...But EGO is wrong about the fabrication of these cars. The only other builder that is even in the same league as TNT in fabrication is Barry Wright, both of these guys welds is more than craftsmanship its art work. Truly amazing welds, every car looks like its been tig welded. The old down tube cars is a design they gave up on in 96 or 97 and yea there not that great. TNT offers 3 different cars A, B and C car...A is close to a GRT..B is identical to a 2002 Rocket and C is there newest and its a BAD ASSSSS car. Won a ton of races the end of 03 and 04. The 02 car that your looking at if it has a under slung then its really close to a GRT and its still winning races in the south if its an over slung car its like a ROCKET and it wins alot of races from Eldora to Alabama. I won 3 with them last year and should have won about 5 others the driver just missed on...Me personally I don't think you can go wrong with TNT...Especially for the prices they have on everything.

Ego Racing
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posted March 02, 2005 10:53 AM  
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Originally posted by bizkit:
Sorry for jsut now looking at this...But EGO is wrong about the fabrication of these cars. The only other builder that is even in the same league as TNT in fabrication is Barry Wright, both of these guys welds is more than craftsmanship its art work. Truly amazing welds, every car looks like its been tig welded. The old down tube cars is a design they gave up on in 96 or 97 and yea there not that great. TNT offers 3 different cars A, B and C car...A is close to a GRT..B is identical to a 2002 Rocket and C is there newest and its a BAD ASSSSS car. Won a ton of races the end of 03 and 04. The 02 car that your looking at if it has a under slung then its really close to a GRT and its still winning races in the south if its an over slung car its like a ROCKET and it wins alot of races from Eldora to Alabama. I won 3 with them last year and should have won about 5 others the driver just missed on...Me personally I don't think you can go wrong with TNT...Especially for the prices they have on everything.

The cars we are running against are 2=1999's 1=2000 1=2003 and 1=2004. The 2004 is the rocket copy and it is as I said a pretty good car. The others look like my 9 year old son welded them. No Joke, I can send pictures. The rocket copy car has the down tubes on it and they will put it on them if you ask. The dealer here orders his with the tubes.

bizkit
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posted March 03, 2005 04:59 AM  
Send me pictures. Because someone is coping a TNT that can't fabricate and selling them as TNT. Tony hasn't put down tubes on a car in 4 years and it was requested then. I can tell you for a FACT that in Spetember 2002 they were building ROCKET cars Because I had one and TNT stamps the date they where built on the steering column neck.

Thanks to TNT fabrication skills I flipped my 9/20/02 rocket twiced last year and it didn't even leave a dent in the chassis. I can show you where I after the flips I was still on my roof. Not a busted weld any where.

Why anyone one want a car with those god ugly down tubes, is even more outragous

sdhnc29
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posted March 03, 2005 04:37 PM  
I've seen Toney's car's up close, and his welds looked good.

Hey Bizkit, how did the 2.2 run?? ;-))

Steve

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
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bizkit
Dirt Maniac

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posted March 04, 2005 05:08 AM  
Like a bat running out hatius from Satan

Its unreal how easy the sb2 stuff is to keep hooked up too...With 18* engine you have to let all the way out of the throttle to catch the rear tires. With this engine just ease back and she catches up...Then keep hammering...I had some bad luck I blew a oiler valve cover line off and caught fire *Grin* It was my fault, I didn't get good enough line...Just glad Terry didn't fire me

Also thought I might tell ya. I missed the gear at first practice and wet turned it 8700. So I change gears and turn 8300 and 8400 and she pulled better there than it did at 8700. But I realize that was probablys Terry's cam selection. But long story short, it was the MOST and I mean FREAKING most power and usable power I've ever set behind...I absolutely love that engine

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sdhnc29
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posted March 04, 2005 05:46 AM  
Cool, glad to hear it! And yes with that cam this motor will probably like to turn less rpm. She should be a stump puller ;-)

Good luck!
Steve

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
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bizkit
Dirt Maniac

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posted March 04, 2005 06:08 AM  
I was kind of worried it would be a little radical. BUT ****NNNNN just back pedal the throttle a little, got to be those heads, can't drive a 18* motor that way..Have you guys talked to Terry about it yet?

sdhnc29
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posted March 04, 2005 11:19 AM  
Yes dad spoke with him the other day. But I did not have time to speak with him about what Terry said. All dad said was that Terry was pretty happy about it. Hopefully we'll be able to do some more for him ;-)
Steve

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Rutherfordton , NC
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Ego Racing
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posted March 10, 2005 07:52 PM  
The cars that are run here are run by the local TNT distributor. All parts are ordered through TNT and all major repairs are done at TNT. I will get pics of the newest car when they run it at the local track. It is a rocket copy from TNT last year with down tubes. They are supposed to be getting a new car (with down tubes) sometime soon and wanted me to pick it up for them. Next time you talk to Tony ask him about Ted Erskin in Florida and his nephew Frank Erskin. Ted is the local dealer and Frank has the rocket with down tubes.

Ego Racing
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posted March 10, 2005 08:16 PM  


 
Here are some pics. The oldest car is the #55 and it is a 2001. In the pic of several cars you can see the 55, 7, 6 and 8 and all are TNT's with down tubes. The only car not in the pic is the 5 which is the rocket copy and it also has the down tubes.

bizkit
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posted March 11, 2005 04:51 AM  
These photos don't show the poor craftsmanship you mentioned. I will call TNT and find out for sure what year model cars they have.

Something else I should ask. Do these teams have drivers capble of winning and equipment??. Lots more to these hot rods than just a frame

I've owned GRT,s Warrior, Swartz, Rayburns, Bullets, Fast chassis. Have driven and worked on Rockets, Shaw's and Barry Wrights. And I can tell you from honest to goodnes real hands on experience on each of these brands. Barry Wright and TNT or put together far better than any of these other cars. **** Mexicans, weld up Rayburns and Rockets these days.

Also Tony doesn't have a distrubtors set up. I try to get setup (I normally sale 3 to 5 cars a year) Tony told me he prefers to work with customers one on one. That he would take care of me if I HELPED sale a car

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Ego Racing
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posted March 11, 2005 07:33 PM  
In the pictures you cannot see the welding and the bodies are all done by the guy that owns the 8 car.
As for drivers the 8 car had someone who was the track champion 3 times and has won ALOT of races drive it with a PROF built motor and he managed to win a heat race.
I am not saying all of there cars are like that and the track we run on down here is not easy to get ahold of, (heck during the Nationals there wasn't a GRT chassis on the track for the main feature) but I do know, like I stated befor the rocket copy is a prettu good car but the fabrication on the others is not what I would expect on a latemodel.
The 55 car took his rear bumper to Buzzie Reutimann to get another rear bumper bent, Buzzie bent it and welded it together for him due to the fact that the factory welds on it "scared him" and those were his words.
If you don't know Buzzie Reutimann he is a local driver who owns a racecar shop here now but used to run big bolck modifieds, His son David drives craftsman truck, Buzzie has over 2000 wins. Just do a search on him and check out the links there are about 6 pagees of them.

Ego Racing
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posted March 11, 2005 07:38 PM  
But I have also heard from several people like the guys at Oval Craft and a few friends who run the WOO late models that the new cars are NOTHING like the old ones. I have not seen any but the down tube style like the ones here and the Rocket copy.
I do have a question though, Have you guys ever heard of or seen a DIRTECK Chassis? We are flying up there in a few weeks to look at there place and the chassis and might be running one this year in the Fasttrack series if everything works out and looks good.

bizkit
Dirt Maniac

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posted March 14, 2005 05:21 AM  
Nope never heard of that chassis...I tell ya man. I know guys from Alabama to West Virginny that Have seen TNT chassis that haven't been painted or powder coated and I've never heard not one single person that wasn't in awww of the welding and craftsmanship that they do. Now I have heard of guys that hate there cars because they couldn't hook them up, but I've also heard that of every brand out there. But you are the first person of i know atleast a 1000 people I've talked too down there craftsmanship or now someone that has downed it. Sorry I'll keep giving my personal hands on opinion of the TNT cars..even if a old asphalt guy in flordia doesn't like them. I know I flipped my TNT hard twice last year and if they would haven been shotty work I would've been hurt, we actually flipped the car over fixed the spoiler and three bent shocks and started 24th and finished 5th at a $3,000 to win race. Not a broken weld on the car. Maybe Buzzie's eyes aren't what they used to be??
But you can take the other guys opinions all you want over mine, I will debate this as long as you wish, because I've seen at least 100 cars first hand from TNT that was nothing but amazing work..Granted not all them were fast or even good designs but the welds were awesome. Like I've said I've seen there work with my on eyes and I don't care if Buzzie has won 1 million races I still think his comment was bull ****, if it was his comments!!

dirtdoc
Dirt Roller

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posted March 17, 2005 04:45 PM  
I've talked to clint smith, if you know i'm talking about? and he has informed me that the tnt looks like a grt but does not have the same set up possibilities as the GRT!!!

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