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zeroracing
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posted February 26, 2004 09:20 AM  
Do any of you guys run a car similarto a imca late model. They are starting a new tour in southern mo with similar cars. just woundering what you guys thought of them if you have ever had one or have one.
how much did your motors cost.

speedy79
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posted February 26, 2004 09:50 AM  
We are currently getting an IMCA Late Model together for this season. So far it seems like a great deal. We were running outlaw type mods in North Iowa, and the cost are skyrocketing for motors and such, I think initially the cost will be similar, but I believe the Spec motor will live longer due to the compression rule, we ran a compression rule with a b-mod and our motors lived a long time. So far I have seen used motors for $4500 to $10,500, I have been told new can be had for $8500 on up. I can't wait to get on track and see how it all goes.

racer17j
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posted February 26, 2004 07:45 PM  
The prices on IMCA LM engines may vairy quite a bit but i have herd of guys spending anywhere from $15,000-$30,000 fo a bullet proof top of the line motor wath all the trick stuff done to it

Dman
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posted March 17, 2004 07:52 AM  
"A fool and his money are soon parted"

Greggie
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posted March 27, 2004 07:33 AM  
They are fairly cheap to maintain, Zero... I have been working with a couple of guys the last couple of years to get my own late model off the ground. I'll tell you of what my experience has been in the last 4 months getting my car going. My car is a '94 Rayburn with '98 updates. I'm told by the folks at RaceMart that I can bring it easily with updates to 2003 technology. My car owner bought it as a roller needing only a motor for $2000 with a new body. The guy also threw in the 390 gas carb. Its not new by any means but it has not been raced a lot and it has good parts up front. The QC is an old Frankland with steel tubes, so we need to do a little work there... Probably just get a new Winters when we can afford it. I'm going to practice it next week with one of my mod motors... It'll have about 150 more horse than the spec motor, but my spec motor is not done yet. I bought a used set of spec heads that have been freshened only once and are in good condition for $700 and that included the required intake. I bought some slightly used lightweight asphalt rotating parts from one of the guys at JR Motorsports for a good price and bought a block from them as well. For about $3000 - 3500 I will have a wet-sump spec motor with parts that will last a long time. Probably for another $500 - 1000 I would have everything to go to the dry-sump. They run about 500 hp and they tell me you have really free the car up to make it work good. Something we're not used to, huh... JR Motorsprots has some motors from last year run by Mark Burgtorf for sale... or they did have, anyway. They are really nice pieces and are about $9500. I think they also have another nice one for $8 - 8500. The guys I have been working with say I spend WAY more on tires than they do. One of them said I could fund 2 or 3 years of their tire bill on what I spent in 2003. I didn't too overboard... I had atleast a right rear once a week. My finishes were goods and I put the money back into the tires. I have heard of people having $4000 - 6000 390 carbs. I don't know if it is true, but you hear about them being pretty costly in that respect. As far as 17j's blown motor observation... I can't say for sure I've seen one, but Darrel DeFrance had trouble for about a week last year. Someone said he "blew up" but I don't know how you blow up 3 or 4 nights in a row... I think he was having some problems, but I don't think it was anything terminal for the motor. And I heard of one blowing up a couple of years ago that was mistreated(Over-revved I believe), but that is all I have seen or heard of. They are low enough in compression and power that they just don't get stressed that much. A new one at JR's runs in the $15000-ish range, I think, with some bells and whistles (Don't quote me on that, though).

All in all, I like my chances of being competitve in the IMCA cars as opposed to the open classes with the big inch aluminum motors... I could never afford that. I don't think the car I am going to be driving will be that great, though, either. The front-end has all of the current technology on it, but the rear is a different story, as you can see. If I like driving the class, I may go ahead and make the move up for 2005, but right now, I'm not jumping in too far.

Hope that gave you something to think about.

Here's what Todd Cooney (past IMCA Nat'l Champ) sent me in an e-mail:

hey whats this i here you have a latemodel if so youll love it and never want to race a mod again

todd cooney

We'll see if he is right.

Greg

racer17j
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posted March 29, 2004 08:27 PM  
Probably not... I'm going to try to have another good year in the mod and then we'll see after that. My mod takes me to Eldon on Saturdays, so that leaves out Webster City.

Greg

racer17j
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posted March 30, 2004 04:54 AM  
we have a deery show durring the fair lol

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