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jhon hollomon
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 468
posted June 22, 2003 09:22 PM  
Hey all. I've got an older larry shaw limited late model. The car has a camaro front stub and a mono leaf rear suspension with a torque arm and a 90-10 shock on top. I am having trouble with the car pushing from the center of the corner out. When i get the car set and start to pick up the throttle it just won't turn. I've got a 92"d-55 hoosier on the right rear and an 88" d-55 on the left rear. What are some things i could try to get the push to go away?

jammin
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posted June 23, 2003 10:16 AM  
jhon, we'll need to know alittle more setup info but a quick fix would be more stagger and/or more left side %. I'm guessing your probably tight in and then when it finally turns your getting alittle loose out from having to use the throttle to help get it out of the push????

GO 24
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posted June 23, 2003 01:51 PM  
Forget what I just posted, I reread everything and realized I read it wrong. SORRY
For a push from the middle out: more stagger, less cross %, maybe a softer rf spring, and I'm seeing alot of guys getting rid of the 90/10 shocks but--I've tried it both ways and like it with more but others swear they wish they took them off along time ago.

jhon hollomon
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posted June 23, 2003 02:47 PM  
I'm running the car pretty much how it was when I bought it. I haven't had it on scales but thats on the agenda for the week. The car is real tight in and i had 4 and a half inches of stagger in it saturday night. I'm wondering if i don't have way too much weight in the rear of the car cuz there's a lot back there.

jhon hollomon
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posted June 23, 2003 08:59 PM  
Do you think if I took a couple of turns out of the right front it will help? Not sure if i'll get it scaled this week.

LyonRacing
Dirt Roller

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posted June 23, 2003 11:08 PM  
Take some weight out in the rear...
are your pressures building up a lot after the race???

and what do you start your pressures at.

Dan Lyon
#015

GO 24
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posted June 24, 2003 10:49 AM  
Yeah that would probably help but your really gonna be chasing a ghost til' you get it on the scales. If you haven't done so check your wheelbase, caster/camber, and toe to make sure everything is set.
Good luck!

jhon hollomon
Dirt Freak

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posted June 24, 2003 02:46 PM  
Hey Dan, my air pressures stay pretty much the same, i was runnind 12 lbs in the right rear and 9 in the left.Hey 24, thanks for that advise. i haven't checked the wheelbase yet, still learning more about this car.

LyonRacing
Dirt Roller

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posted June 24, 2003 06:01 PM  
I also forgot to ask what year is the chassis.. because, it could be twisting... that happened to me before. Hmm, I'm trying to remember what my tire PSI was becuase, I left the book at the shop. We had both front tires at 6 and the rear ones at 11 or 12 I forget. I think you should up the tire that 9 pounds in it.

Dan #015

jhon hollomon
Dirt Freak

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posted June 24, 2003 10:10 PM  
Not sure on year but i'd say 93-95. It has 2x3 for the frame and I think they went to 2x2 plus it's got the X in the back.

LyonRacing
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 22
posted June 24, 2003 10:13 PM  
Sounds like it should be ok. But, that old of a chassis. You might want to check that thing thoroughly. I checked mine... and found some welds that were broken and the tubing was twisting.. and mine was a 95 tobber chassis... lol

Dan Lyon
#015

GO 24
Dirt Freak

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posted June 25, 2003 03:57 PM  
I'm questioning the tire pressures, If your tight coming out more stagger would help. I run my tires at 6 lr, 12 rr, 8 lf, and 10rf. on the d-55's that should get ya 5in of stagger or so, anyone ever heard the old timers asking how many wrinkles was it gonna take tonite? That's what their talking about!

LyonRacing
Dirt Roller

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posted June 25, 2003 09:33 PM  
oh man... lol
well between me and GO24 we're gonna fix yer dern push man.

hm
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 51
posted June 26, 2003 11:37 AM  
scale the car and then come back with numbers, everything else your hearing is just bs.

LyonRacing
Dirt Roller

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posted June 26, 2003 03:19 PM  
I dont think he likes us Go..

GO 24
Dirt Freak

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posted June 26, 2003 03:26 PM  

It's all good! I do kinda agree though, w/o the #'s were all kinda just givin' out quick fixes that may just "mask" the real problems.
Ya gotta ask though, and we can hopefully steer ya in the right direction!

hm
Dirt Full Roller

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posted June 27, 2003 07:53 AM  
Didn't mean to offend you guys, I'm sure the help is appreciated, I just don't think he should waste his time trying to fix a problem when you don't really know what the problem is. He's probably going to spend weeks at the track chasing this, when he could spend an hour on the scales and be done with it.

jammin
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posted June 27, 2003 07:55 AM  
My question would be, Is it doing this at the start of the race? he said he was on 55s, is the right front too soft, giving up? causeing the push.

devil wrench
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posted July 04, 2003 11:23 AM  
Hey lyon...how are you related to Les? I'm interested in buying his car, but had to leave Stateline last night before I could talk to him.

devil wrench
Dirt Maniac

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posted July 09, 2003 09:21 AM  
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