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Author Topic:   4-BAR LR SHOCK BEHIND
LMRCR
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted December 29, 2001 04:10 PM  
2ND YEAR IN LATE, '95 GRT, WAS TOLD TO PUT
LR SHOCK BEHIND AXLE, DID IT & RESET
WEIGHT--CAR JUST WOULDN'T TURN--TOO TIGHT
GOING IN & THROUGH MIDDLE...3/8 TRACK W/GOOD
BANKING. THE TRACK GETS VERY SLICK A LITTLE
OVER 1/2 WAYS UP & A MUDHOLE ON THE BOTTOM.
EVERYBODY JUST GETS IN A LINE W/NO PASSING.
NEED SOME HELP KEEPING SPEED UP IN & OUT
OF CORNERS. WHAT DOES A SHORT LEFT SIDE
PANHARD BAR DO???MESS W/OVERSTEER???
ANY SUGGESTIONS--THANKS


WPP
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 451
posted December 30, 2001 08:33 PM  
How much stagger are you running Also when you have the spring behind it adds alot wedge when your on the throttle rear steer will help but alot of it is timeing also i have seen some of these guys run a softer spring rate on the right front and a stiffer spring on the left front . Maybe some of these guys will help i don't drive latemodels

Roadhzrd
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 161
posted January 02, 2002 02:36 AM  
I'd try more stagger and more rear steer. I don't know where you have your lr birdcage indexed but maybe you could take some out.

Beerbarron44
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted February 12, 2002 10:51 PM  
Wouldn't shortening the right side lower link help with this problem?

racer170
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted March 22, 2002 06:21 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by LMRCR:
2ND YEAR IN LATE, '95 GRT, WAS TOLD TO PUT
LR SHOCK BEHIND AXLE, DID IT & RESET
WEIGHT--CAR JUST WOULDN'T TURN--TOO TIGHT
GOING IN & THROUGH MIDDLE...3/8 TRACK W/GOOD
BANKING. THE TRACK GETS VERY SLICK A LITTLE
OVER 1/2 WAYS UP & A MUDHOLE ON THE BOTTOM.
EVERYBODY JUST GETS IN A LINE W/NO PASSING.
NEED SOME HELP KEEPING SPEED UP IN & OUT
OF CORNERS. WHAT DOES A SHORT LEFT SIDE
PANHARD BAR DO???MESS W/OVERSTEER???
ANY SUGGESTIONS--THANKS


Forget about the short pan hard bar. The car will be extremely sensitive to the steering wheel and roll. 5" stagger and loosen the car up. You don't need all the bite they say. Let them drive around the bottom, focus on getting your car to work the middle and be smooth. Believe, me, you can drive right past them if you can loosen the car.

EAK
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 2
posted April 04, 2002 07:19 PM  
dont mess with the short bar
take the wedge out till its so loose u cant stand it then go the other way
also run about 175# of wedge 2 start
u'll gettr keep loosin it up

HIGH VOLTAGE
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 37
posted May 17, 2002 07:49 PM  
By moving the shock or spring behind the axle on the left side this will add more wedge into the car upon acceleration.If the track is heavy with alot of bite already there you may find moving them back in front early in the night.By time the features roll around track is slick and taking rubber move them back again.Just my opion.Circle track ran a article on this subject.Go www.circletrack.com and reserch it hope this helps.

Kendall42
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted May 25, 2002 10:00 PM  
You can get away without adding stagger. Last year when I got my new car, I put shock behind and followed setup sheets. Car would not turn at all. So I went back to shock in front, lowered my J-bar at the frame, swapped front springs (heavier back on RF),etc. Car was much more drivable. With our tires we are lucky to get 1 inch stagger. I also do not like stagger...slows you down on straights. Over the year I slowly went back as I got used to the car. Now I LOVE the LR shock behind, really pulls off corners nicely. Keep about 3 inchs delta in your J-bar from pinion to frame. Move your RR upper bar up to about 22-24 degrees and leave the LR at about 15-17 degrees. This will help plant the RR tire under power and will induce a little more roll steer.

Brad www.kendallmotorsports.com

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