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Author Topic:   no springs on trailer...how will it hold up?
justin
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 263
posted July 07, 2003 05:33 PM  
I found a pretty good deal on a 20 ft car trailer with a brand new electric jack and 8000 winch on it for $1200. The only problem is that it sits directly on the axles because it doesn't have any springs on it. The guy selling it says that the trailer is heavy enough where it don't bounce around very much and it trailers good behind the truck (I guess I'd expect him to say that though). Anyone ran a trailer like this, and if so, what can I expect? I know a guy pretty well that runs a machine shop across the road from me and I'm sure he can throw some springs in it if it needed it, but I don't want to go thru the hassle if I don't need too. Thanks.

justin

fordstreeter
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 10
posted July 07, 2003 07:58 PM  
justin i have a trailer just like the one you are describing and in 11 years tires and brakes is all its needed( and a taillight when i back into something) Hope this helps

jay116
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 428
posted July 07, 2003 08:23 PM  
I've got a trailor made out of an old car lift frame. the kind that had a single hydraulic cylinder that went into the floor. It has a floating style farm implement tandem axle. no springs. Other than being a little tongue heavy it trails like a dream and I can adjust the height of the trailor by rotating the tandems 180 degrees. I've owned the trailor for 3 yrs and have had no problems with it. I pulled my car and motors on it from Iowa to Michigan without a care. Anybody got a tank they want moved? I think it would almost handle it.

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Big Bear

redneck bubbas racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 283
posted July 07, 2003 09:58 PM  
With a solid axle trailer you will need to treat it a little different. Whenever you tie your car down tie to the cars axles instead of the bumpers. An even better method would be to use the tire bonnets. As long as you allow the suspension on the car to work it will be smooth as silk. Regarding pulling it empty, take some tylenol, you're gonna need it. This is my experiance as I too have a solid axle trailer. I love mine for the low height and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Big Bear
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 67
posted July 07, 2003 11:37 PM  
I always tie my cars down by the axles never have done it any other way. 2 chains with binders in the back and a dead head up front. as for pulling my trailor empty it doesnt bounce around all that much as the floating tandem absorbs alot more than you would think.

Big Bear

justin
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 263
posted July 08, 2003 12:18 AM  
Tying my car down the to the axles is a problem for me. I run a leaf spring camaro and I built some stands that sit betweeen the rearend housing and the frame to help keep weight off my springs while trailering and I have to tie it down at the frame. Will it hurt anything if I don't tie the car down at the axles or should I just take the stands out? Thanks for your help so far.

justin

rocket36
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 209
posted July 08, 2003 07:31 AM  
I've had and built trailers with & without springs, and used to build custom trailers for a living, and I gotta tell you, if you can afford it, don't build a trailer without springs. you just seem to be forever welding up cracks and most commonly fixing the mud gaurds (wheel fenders).
leaf springs are good (with a long,shallow arch) and with a load sharing "rocker" system
between them is even better, but independant is without doubt the nicest I have used. I have made independant wishbones in the past (with leaf springs) but i'm currently a fan of the rubber torsion "posi-torque" units. they're cheap, light, and smooth to tow even when not loaded (as the rubber absorbs vibrasions). I am however, quite keen on trying air bags.

rexalott
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 31
posted July 08, 2003 02:57 PM  
If I ever build another one it will have suspension, but I've gotten by for years with the solid axle one.
Empty, it will jar your teeth out at certain speeds, usually around 40-50, which is what you run mostly through town.But out on the interstate if you get up to 70 or more its not bad.Loaded is much better.
The winch will pay for itself several times, picking up disabled cars, both yours and others'.

Big Bear
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 67
posted July 08, 2003 03:13 PM  
What kind of winch is it

Big Bear

DMA Racing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 129
posted July 08, 2003 08:48 PM  
i had one solid axle trailor pulled real good and low on the ground,but i was welding on it a lot. axles always breaking loose, but i think it was the way it was made. not very good. have one with springs now and i love it. for the price on the one your looking at i think it would be a good deal,even if you had to put springs on it

by the way does anyone know the legal width of a pull behind

[This message has been edited by DMA Racing (edited July 08, 2003).]

rexalott
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 31
posted July 09, 2003 06:49 AM  
I've always been told it was 8 ft, but I've never seen it in writing anywhere to back it up.

Wildside17
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 119
posted July 09, 2003 08:14 AM  
Legal width is 102" or 8'6".

[This message has been edited by Wildside17 (edited July 09, 2003).]

justin
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 263
posted July 09, 2003 09:59 AM  
Thanks for all the input fellas. I'm going to go ahead and buy the trailer and have my neighbor that owns a machine shop/welding shop put some new springs in it for me. He'll do it for almost nothing anyway. I appreciate all the help.

Justin

DMA Racing
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 129
posted July 09, 2003 08:28 PM  
well i have heard 102, but like rexalott never seen it witten down. my trailor was used for pulling a bobcat loader.i cut it in half longways and added 16"...just say when i go down a country road.its from center line to the edge. but i don't have to use a loading tire on the car..lol

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