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James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted August 24, 2005 08:56 PM  
I've looked around and have not heard anything quite as depressing as what we went threw. I just got the my son's new race car together (metric cutlass) and we headed her to the track. I took it out and found that it was revving out before the end of the straight-away. I thought no big deal he won't run that hard. Ha the kid is only 12 but has been racing since he was six so he was out there and letting her whistle. he runs about 15 laps and the car break loose out of a corner and he dumps into the infield. the car is smoking and hissing so i thought rad. Nope oil all over the motor, stick shows nada! put in 2-1/2 quarts and it s ok. Get back out on the track and its bogging no rpms. the kid comes in and no oil pressure at idle. I thin ki hear a soft knock. He said "it was turning over 6000 almost 7000 dad" HELP
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ss99
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 120
posted August 25, 2005 07:58 AM  
Sounds broke to me. Maybe broke a piston.

Pull the heads and take a look.

maximus
Dirt Roller

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posted August 25, 2005 10:07 AM  
I agee with ss99 its a goner. You probably already know this but when you rebuild it don't use a high volume oil pump and be sure to zip tie rags around the breathers on the valve covers.

dirtbuster
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Total posts: 2007
posted August 25, 2005 10:28 AM  
dont cover the breathers with rags. That only decreses their airflow. they are there for a reason and that is to vent the bottom end of your motor. If you choke them off you will increase pressure in the crankcase slowing oil drainback to the pan even more.

cobb
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted August 25, 2005 05:10 PM  
did the oil filter get knocked loose on the way through the infield?

James Ott
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posted August 25, 2005 07:36 PM  
I'll head down to the shop and check tomorrow but I dont think it was loose. I looked all around after we topped it up and saw nothing leaking. This one really bites, were trying to finish our MINICUP season and still get some seat time for the new car. does any body think a windage tray or circle track pan would help? in the new motor that is.
Thanks

MOD MAN
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 21
posted August 25, 2005 08:03 PM  
First was the bolt hole in the block directly in front of the fuel pump left open with out a bolt in it. if so that is your oil leak there are 2 holes one goes all the way so you can lock the fuel pump rod to change pumps

J3
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Total posts: 188
posted August 25, 2005 11:56 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by James Ott:
[B]I've looked around and have not heard anything quite as depressing as what we went threw. ]

Then you didn't read my post about Royal Purple oil. Sorry to hear that happened, I know how ya feel.

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted August 26, 2005 11:54 AM  
"First was the bolt hole in the block directly in front of the fuel pump left open with out a bolt in it. if so that is your oil leak there are 2 holes one goes all the way so you can lock the fuel pump rod to change pumps"

Absolutely right Mod Man that was the source of the leak. The bolt hole was full of orange paint so I would have never guessed it goes all the way into the block!
Tnank-you Thank-you Thank-you!!!!!

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fast_crew
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 99
posted August 26, 2005 04:47 PM  
make sure you don't use to long of a bolt in that hole, as it will pinch the fuel pump rod.

Josh Kreasko

James Ott
Dirt Maniac

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posted September 03, 2005 09:23 AM  
Changed the motor and this time we made sure that there was a bolt in the hole. The neighbour up the street has a 383 stroker and guess what no bolt in the hole. I guess it would not matter on the street (except sucking in a little dirt) but wow it made a heck of a difference on the track. Learn something new every day!

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James Ott
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 131
posted September 04, 2005 07:27 AM  
In keeping with the topic of controlling oil I'm looking for info on windage trays and crank s****ers and the like. What is the preffered method of keeping oil in the pan? Drag motors are relatively easy, windage tray and youre good. But this problem if shoving all the oil to one side of the pan makes for different approach I think. I'm going to build a GOOD motor for next season and were looking for durabilty and reliablity. First you need to finish to finish first!

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sideways
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Total posts: 715
posted September 04, 2005 08:25 AM  
Go with a circle track pan.Even if it is a cheap one.Stock over filled pans are a accident waiting to happen.Oil control turning to the left is critical for engine survival.I lost one engine with a few races on it cause of a stock pan.

robhbk24
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted September 04, 2005 12:51 PM  
some blocks actually don't have a hole that goes all the way through, mine has one an the bolt was forgotten but my dads block does not go all the way inside

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