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racer17j
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posted January 29, 2005 11:17 AM  
01 worked best out of all of them in my 13-1 355 a couple years ago, Ive still got a used 01,02 and 03 sitting here.

you would be better of with a cam with a 108 centerline though.

racin78p
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posted January 29, 2005 02:53 PM  
racer17j: buddy, call Charles at camcraft, one of the sponors for this site. He can set you up with something that nobody else has. He did me and I'm very happy! Just a thought.

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racer17j
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posted January 29, 2005 06:20 PM  
Ran the 01 last season with a similar motor combo. It worked well for us. Looks like we had a little more compression, however. We run camel hump heads - around 11.5:1 compression.

gould
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posted February 01, 2005 04:54 PM  
i'll give you a wildcard cam if you come and get it. I have no idea what it is. It's in the motor that came out of my mod.

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speedy46
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posted February 02, 2005 04:20 PM  
if u want to PM me i will give u the perfect cam #'s but otherwise get a jr #8 or #7

racin78p
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posted February 05, 2005 03:06 AM  
racer17j: Yup, cost a tad more than $79. If you need just the cam, he isn't really that much more. To get something "really different" the cost is more! That is what I was after.

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flatfoot27
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posted February 05, 2005 06:20 AM  
I have used the 14102 the last 4 years in a 350 and it builds unbelievable horsepower between 35 and 65. I have tried the 15002 and it did ok, but not as well as the 14102. I have tries MWM's cams and a couple others and this cam give me the edge. lol

Istock66
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posted February 05, 2005 11:00 AM           send a private message to flatfoot27   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
Its evident all over these boards racer17j never spends any money on racing but anyways.

If you buy a 79 dollar cam and it has enough pull to get you to 4th or 5th thats great. But if you spend 185 with camcraft for a custom and it pulls you to 1st,or 2nd only 2-3 times its paid for the difference in cost.

You get what you pay for when you buy a cam for a limited motor class, if you run what everyone else does youll run like everyone else!!

racin78p
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posted February 05, 2005 11:13 AM  
Ouch Istock66!!! Poor racer17J!!! Be good and play nice, now! LOL!!!

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Xtreme12x
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posted February 05, 2005 11:35 AM  
It's evident all over these boards Istock66 doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground. Get a clue

As for a good cam get a Midwest #8 and Advance it a couple degree's and you'll be more then happy. As far as Istock66, he needs to get with the future and build a real car. Come on, you said on another forum that you'd build a stockcar for twice what everyone else charges because its a Slova. C'mon, they are outdated. When you start winning races we'll listen a little closer.

racer17j
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posted February 05, 2005 11:50 AM  
jake i've been looking into the crower brand tight lash cams..like the 00355,i had one in a 377 and it pulled very hard,that was when they first came out back in 1990 or so.But they are a little pricey...$129 for just the cam...
I don't think you need a trick cam to win.

LUBEGUY07
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posted February 05, 2005 03:24 PM  
isnt this suposed to be about a cam . THe guys asking a question and doesnt need to be bashed for being tight on money. Some of the best racecar driver i know are some of the cheapest guys around, but they will bend over backwords to help a guy out,so forget about 66 childish comments, and my mom always told me if u cant say anything nice dont say anything

Istock66
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posted February 05, 2005 04:01 PM           send a private message to LUBEGUY07   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/QuoteBBBBBB
how is it bashing to tell someone on a budget obviously how to get more for their moneys worth at the pit gate???

you guys are the childish ones especially you racer 17j. If you would have asked I would have sent you any of my speedway cams at no charge, they are bigger than the Custom from Camcraft I run in my 406s.

Call absolutely any cam guy and **** tell you what I told you about price for a custom cam, its the best money spent on your racing program, and will pay for itself in about 3 weeks, or one big show!!

As for crower, where do you get one for 130? Crower told me 160 to 180 for their standard grinds?

racer17j
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posted February 05, 2005 04:16 PM  
I did mean something by it exactly what it says.

You tout how you spend no money, have no money all the time, race a bent car etc.

BUT I WILL STILL (even though its likely a complete waste of my time because you will argue with me, and wont spend the extra money) GIVE YOU SOME VERY REAL AND GOOD ADVICE!!!!

And it turned out exactly as I expected.

Good luck Jake I will not waste your time with my posts ever again.

x-rated
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posted February 05, 2005 09:28 PM  
It is not necessarily what cam configuration you have with your motor,how far you have degreed it in on way or the other, or how many cubes you have. With luck and many evenings in the shop with a good crew that gives a **** and have the time to be with a prospective winner there are possibilites. We have raced with junk in the street stock class and put in some $$$$ rotating assemblies and the best have been what we have purchased from somebody else, used,that could not get it to go with the flow of the pack. Put a good confident, keep looking ahead, doesn't want to get it tore up budget racer in the car and he will be happy with his crew. we ran first at one track and second at another track last year and won a at the MO> State Fair with plain ol'e 355. Who needs a stroker that is limited to RPM?

racin78p
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posted February 06, 2005 03:24 AM  
racer17j and all else on here: I want to make sure that everyone understands that I personally meant no harm in comments that I have posted here, and elswhere on this forum. I only express my views and try to offer help in anyway that I can, as many of you have done just that for me. I hope I didn't get a word brawl going on here! I am like racer17, I don't have a bunch of cash to drop into a race car, and so I MUST spend the money I DO have in the right places for the right stuff! After last season I realized that I needed more umph from the motor, especially out of the corners. I was beating them in, but coming out I just didn't have enough. So I started making some calls. Charles at Camcraft was a HUGH help, and so I ordered goodies from him. I agree with Istock66 in the reguard that a better cam (or at least a CUSTOM ground cam) can be the difference in where a guy can place at the end of the race. A new cam and other up-grades to my car has me hoping that I can get to the front this year, and STAY there.

We all have our own way of trying to get the job done. For myself, I was/am only trying to help out a fellow racer who asked a simple question about cams. Life is way to short to be wizzing on each other, that is for sure! Race on, and I do apologize if I have offended ANYONE!

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flatfoot27
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posted February 06, 2005 07:47 AM  
I have spent the money on the good cams and I personally can tell you from my experience that 14002 is one of the best cams out their for a budget racer. You degree that cam in and will work. We have a 600.00 claim so we have to be careful what we spend. I compete against three different motor builders motors that cost between 25 and 4 thousand and I can beat them on any giving day. But, as been said before CHASSIS settup is SOOOO important. Less motor will run with the big dogs if you have your car set up right. You donot have to spend alot of money to win. But you still have to be able to drive also. If that motor isn't being worked to death by your chassis being set wrong it can run more freely and give you maximum power.I always feal if you can run in the top 10 consistently out of 30 or 35 cars and catch a few of the top 5's or even win once in awhile you are doing all right. Our points champion last year never won one race but was in the top 5 every week. Being consistent is far more important.If you are a young racer each year buy something alittle better. Patience sometimes can be your best friend.That's one great thing about racing you can still race evan when your an old fart like me.When you stop learning, you stop winning. lol. All U All have a great year.

Xtreme12x
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posted February 06, 2005 10:27 AM  
Remember Istock won 68% Percent of his races on asphalt. Yea right gimme a break. It's funny how even on whowon he likes to dog people. He better watch his back down in the sticks this year might get a suprise.

Anyone ever try any other Midwest cams in a flat top low comp motor?

stockcar5
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posted February 06, 2005 11:26 AM  
i just went to the dyno yesterday with my first camcraft cam....WELL worth the money.

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rico 08
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posted February 07, 2005 06:42 AM  
Istock
i was looking at paw's prices
way below crowers own price,not sure why

pit_boss
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posted February 07, 2005 09:07 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by stockcar5:
i just went to the dyno yesterday with my first camcraft cam....WELL worth the money.


What dyno shop did you go to ? we took one to a shop in Mankato last spring.We asked him (the dyno guy) how we compared in our class to ohers that had come in, in the same we came in above average..........Jim

stockcar5
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posted February 07, 2005 10:58 AM  
probably the same place...wenzels in mankato.

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smayo964
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posted February 07, 2005 01:07 PM  
Hey Racer17j, we ran the midwest #9 in both a 355 and 383 and for the money, we made plenty of horsepower. It actually worked better with the 355 due to the 383 was spinning the tires all the way around the track. Just my 2 pennies, we were competitive and content with the lower cost component.

sc1 racing
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posted February 07, 2005 04:31 PM  
has anyone ever checked the vacum any of these cams pull..im desperatly needing a proven cam, that will pass tech. everyone around here runs bullet, and im tring to break away, and also didnt really like it much...

waltonjr1
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posted February 07, 2005 04:46 PM  
Im running the 187 cam from Jr Motorsports. Its 508 lift 244 duration and it pulls 19 inches with rhoades lifters after the motors hot, 16 cold.


racin78p
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posted February 07, 2005 11:57 PM  
Each time I've posted here, I have forgotten to add: In my spare motor that we ran half of last year, we put in a Midwest #6. I liked the numbers on that cam and it performed really well, except we had the rear geared wrong. Needed more rpm. The power came on real strong, but not early enough. After researching, I found out that the lobe seperation on the cam wasn't really what I needed. They were too close. Only like a 2 degree seperation. Ooooooo!!!! Real tight.

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racin78p
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sc1 racing
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posted February 08, 2005 05:31 AM  
im really looking for a solid lift. i do not like the hydraulic cams, just dont seem to wrap up quick enough and they fall flat to fast where a solid is just a better feel to me..

racer17j
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posted February 08, 2005 05:25 PM  
i'm running the same cam as walton. it's alright for my old class when we had to run hydro but not in the limited mods most guys are running midwest#8 or jr 105's. the motor i'm runnning now ran good with a #8 in it for the guy i bought it from but it also had 2.02/1.6 valves and ported on the intake side i'm gonna be running some imca stuff so have to stay with the 1.94/1.5 valves and can't port um

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