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tbird
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posted May 16, 2002 06:09 PM
IMCA to unveil new division in 2003

VINTON, Iowa (May 16, 2002) - The new Modified division to be introduced by I.M.C.A. next season will have its own distinctive look, along with a combination of unique features and those shared with other sanctioned classes.

Prototypes for three body packages are in the works now. The engine will have a 361 cubic inch limit, 9-to-1 compression and automatic powerglide transmissions will be required.

No quick-change rear ends are allowed. Tires will be the G60 and all wheels must have a three-inch offset. Drivers can phase in older chassis but will eventually have to use a full-size Ford factory frame.

"We want this to be an economical entry level class that complements our Modified division, much the same way the Hobby Stocks do our Stock Car division," explained I.M.C.A. Vice President of Operations Brett Root. "We are looking to come up with a division similar to the Modified that can be run as economically as a Hobby Stock."

"Ideally, we want this to be something that can be built from scratch," Root added. "It will be as close to a total spec race car as you can get without necessarily forcing people to buy from a single supplier, and as affordable as possible."

Yet to be determined are a minimum weight and a dollar amount for the engine claim. Once those items are decided, they'll be added to the rules now posted on the I.M.C.A. website.

A maximum purse structure will also be established.

National point standings will be based on drivers' 20 best feature finishes and it's anticipated that the new division will be part of the Speedway Motors I.M.C.A. Super Nationals schedule beginning in 2003

"We don't want people to get the idea that we are changing our philosophy or giving up on any of the classes we have now. There is no doubt that the less expensive a division is, the more people can enjoy it," Root said. "The new division offers another choice to promoters and drivers, and it will serve a very important purpose within this organization. It's been more than 10 years since I.M.C.A. added a division (the Hobby Stocks, in 1989) and that says a lot about the stability of our rules."

While much of the structure for the new division is in place, a name for it has yet to be decided.

I.M.C.A. is open to suggestion and any ideas can be forwarded to Root at the I.M.C.A. home office.

"The name should incorporate Modified. We're not going to call it a B-Mod, an E-Mod or an Econo-mod," he said. "This is an entry-level Modified that is not downgraded and its name should reflect that."

The person proposing the name that is chosen will receive a six-day pit pass to the upcoming Super Nationals. If they're also an I.M.C.A. driver, they'll get a complimentary license for the 2003 race season as well.

jlfastride
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posted May 16, 2002 09:42 PM
kinda partial to fords only ain't they???????

K9
Dirt Roller

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posted May 16, 2002 11:57 PM
I'm liking this class already!!!!
Lets start a trial run right now. I got a car that fits the bill already!!

K9

racer17j
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posted May 17, 2002 01:34 PM UIN: 54865418
sounds like they are heading in the right direction but not sure how the ford deal is gonna work out it isn't any cheaper to build a ford stubbed car. think they might be dropping the ball on that part i'm willing to bet that there will not be very many of those ford cars build before they are forced too and it will die out when they do atleast in iowa anyway just like the stock cars did after the carb rule when there are alot of track in the area that already run the same rules execpt for the ford frame guess where the guys are going to go my bet they aren't going to build a totally new car when they can still run 50 miles down the road with what they already have

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Dirt Freak

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posted May 17, 2002 03:34 PM
the late ford frame is the only one that is still being made. gm no longer makes a full framed car anymore. the late ford ltd/crown vic was built in about 82 or 83 and is still the same frame under my dads 99 crown vic. the gm frames are or would be used up if used for the new and reg class with all the reg mods beings built on them. using the ford frames gives you a long time supply of frames for the new class and buys the reg class time before they end up going to fab frame which i have heard there is already talk of doing.

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Dirt Freak

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posted May 17, 2002 03:35 PM
the late ford frame is front steer by the way the older ones were rear steer.

ford5
Dirt Freak

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posted May 17, 2002 05:21 PM
custom is right!! BTW whats up with the powerglide only rule? that is gonna not be very economical for the ford and mopar guys now is it?

mwmod34
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Total posts: 23
posted May 17, 2002 06:12 PM
That isnt the problem I built all of my own jigs to put a glide on my 302 took about 3 hrs after i had the parts that i got from the junk yard for 20 bucks and $50 piece of .250 steel plate there was nothing to it.

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Dirt Freak

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posted May 17, 2002 08:45 PM
With all the problems i have had with automatics with or without a torque converter i would rather much run a manual tranny in the new class if i were to run it.Manual trannies are so much more reliable.

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Dirt Freak

Total posts: 464
posted May 17, 2002 08:50 PM
My idea is it would be in their best interest to alow older reg mods in and any new ones to be built on the ford frame. Allow a auto with torque converter or a mnaual with stock single disc clutch like so many other limited mods have to use. Limit it to 9-1 comp and a 360 cid and a 500cfm 2 barrell. Used pull offs from the mod guys as so many of them have a bunch of usaed tires.
This way ti would help get rid of used chassis behind many of those back yards and give us reg mod guys a way to rid our sheds of those used tires we dont use. By allowing the same chassis to be used a guy could move up the next year or two and run with us reg mod guys without geting a whole new car, just drivetrain change.

nut3d
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 110
posted May 17, 2002 10:45 PM
Wat is up with that motor rule. Only Chevy V8's allowed. I think they should run th350 with a converter insted of the power glide.

tbird
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 11
posted May 18, 2002 12:01 AM
Just so everyone is aware of the rules, here they are.

Note: These rules are NOT 100% complete! There will be minor changes and clarifications made and we will inform everyone when the rules are official.

Copyright 2002 I.M.C.A. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored, or transmitted in any form, without prior written permission.

NOTE: This is an entry level division. No driver holding a current I.M.C.A. license in any other division is eligible to compete in an I.M.C.A. Modified.
submitted May 7, 2002 -
The International Motor Contest Association shall hereafter be simply referred to as I.M.C.A. throughout the rules descriptions.
The rules and/or regulations set forth herein are designed to provide for the orderly conduct of racing events and to establish minimum acceptable requirements for such events. These rules shall govern the condition of all events, and by participating in these events, all participants are deemed to have complied with these rules. No expressed or implied warranty of safety shall result from publications of or compliance with these rules and/or regulations. They are intended as a guide for the conduct of the sport and are in no way a guarantee against injury or death to a participant, spectator or official. The race director shall be empowered to permit reasonable and appropriate deviation from any of the specifications herein or impose any further restrictions that in his opinion do not alter the minimum acceptable requirements. No expressed or implied warranty of safety shall result from such alteration of specifications. Any interpretation or deviation of these rules is left to the discretion of the officials. Their decision is final.

*ALL I.M.C.A. GENERAL RULES APPLY*
* IF THESE RULES DO NOT STATE YOU CAN DO IT, YOU CAN NOT. *
SPECIFIC CAR RULES
1. SAFETY EQUIPMENT: Snell SA95 or SA2000 helmet required, (see sample decal on body diagram). Roll bar padding required in driver compartment. Fire retardant padding recommended. SFI approved full fire suit required. Fire retardant neck braces, gloves required. Fire retardant shoes recommended. Minimum 16-inch by 20-inch driver-side mesh or ribbon window net required. Five point safety belts, sub belt, and shoulder harness required. Shoulder harness must be mounted securely to roll cage. Belts and harness recommended to be not more than one year old.
2. FRAME OPTIONS: No part of frame can be lower than 4 inches from ground. Rear of frame rails may only be cut at a point no further forward than 36 inches from center line of rear end housing. Minimum wheelbase is 110-inches. Maximum overall width shall not exceed 78-inches from outside of tire to outside of tire. NEW FRAMES: All new frames must use factory production complete, 1980-2002 full-size Ford, Mercury or Lincoln Town Car, only. Only modification to frame is front of frame rails may be cut a minimum of 3 inches ahead of top-front of steering box. USED FRAMES: I.M.C.A. will allow other factory production complete full size 1960 or newer parallel american passenger car frames until December 31, 2004.
3. ROLL CAGE: Must consist of continuous hoops not less than 1 3/4-inch O.D. with .095-inch wall thickness. Low carbon, mild steel tubing is recommended. No brazing or soldering allowed. Must consist of a configuration of front, rear and top hoops connected by hoops or tubing on all sides, frame-mounted in at least six places, and securely supported and braced. Driver's head must not protrude outside cage with helmet on while strapped in driver's seat. Must have minimum of one cross bar in top halo of roll cage, 1-inch O.D. with .083 wall thickness. Foot protection bar forward of cage is mandatory. No brace bars forward of cage may be higher than stock hood height. Main cage no further forward than engine plate.
4. DOOR BARS: All door bars must be welded to front and rear roll cage members. Driver Side: Minimum of three door bars, 1 1/2-inch O.D. with .083 wall thickness, parallel with ground and perpendicular to driver. Steel door plate, .049-inch minimum thickness, must be securely welded to outside of door bars and visible for inspection. Must cover area from top door bar to bottom door bar and from rear roll cage member to 5 inches in front of seat. Passenger Side: Must have at least one diagonal, 1 1/4-inch O.D. with .083 wall thickness, and one top door bar, 1 1/2-inch O.D. with .083 wall thickness.
5. BODY: Body dimensions/packages to be announced.
6. INTERIOR AND COCKPIT: (see diagram for measurements) Minimum of three windshield bars in front of driver. Lexan or aluminum cowl panel in front of driver allowed, but can be no wider than cockpit and no farther back than steering wheel. Minimum .125-inch aluminum, or .060-inch steel, complete floor pan required. Driver must be completely sealed off from track, driveline, engine, fuel cell, suspension components, battery, coolers and pumps. Full high-back, .125 thick aluminum seat only. Only holes allowed in seat are for belt, harness and mounting bolts. Must be bolted in next to left side frame rail, ahead of rear tires and higher than bottom of frame rail.
7. FRONT SUSPENSION: All parts must be STEEL unaltered, approved OEM. Must be in stock location and match frame. No weight jack bolts. Exceptions are: (a) Upper Adjustable coil spring spacer allowed (Speedway Motors part number 916-45551, or similar) (b) Regardless of frame, OEM upper A-frame may be replaced with I.M.C.A. approved aftermarket A-frame. A-frame to be announced.
8. STEERING: All parts must be STEEL unaltered, approved OEM. Must be in stock location and match frame. Exceptions are: (a) Steering quickener, steering wheel and quick release may be aluminum. (b) Steel after-market power steering pumps must use double groove aluminum pulleys and aluminum or plastic reservoirs. (c) Frames other than full size Ford frame may mix and match front steering components, they must remain OEM unaltered and I.M.C.A. approved.
9. SHOCKS : One per wheel. All shocks must be I.M.C.A. approved (approved shocks and part numbers to be announced). Fixed, single shock mounts only. Front shocks must be in stock location. Rear shocks must be located behind rear-end housing. All shocks must be bolted to mounts.
10. SPRINGS: One per wheel. Single rate coil springs only, must be steel and at least 4 1/2-inches O.D., no taller than 13 inches free height. No air bags. Springs must be mounted according to front and rear suspension guidelines.
11. REAR SUSPENSION: All cars must use the following 3-link rear suspension guidelines:
(a) All components must be steel. All suspension mounts and brackets must be welded to housing or chassis.
(b) Must use 3/4-inch thread, steel tubes and rod ends with 3/4-inch bolts.
(c) Lower control arms (min. 16 inches in length), must use single hole housing bracket and maximum 5 hole chassis bracket.
(d) One upper control arm must be located at the top center of the rear end housing using weld on bracket (Speedway Motors part number 916-45502, or similar) and remain over the top of drive shaft (front to back). May use maximum 5 hole fixed bracket on chassis.
(e) Pan hard bar (minimum length to be determined) must be located behind rear end housing, using weld on bracket (4 hole max) (Speedway Motors part number 916-45513, or similar). May use (max) 5 hole fixed chassis bracket.
(f) Springs must use weld on lower spring perch (Speedway Motors part number 917-20243, or similar) and upper steel weight jacks (Speedway Motors part number 916-45535, or similar). Springs must remain over center line of rear end housing . Spring must remain verticle.
12. REAR END: All components must be steel. Exceptions are: aluminum axle cap and one-piece drive flange. Any approved, non cambered, OEM passenger car or truck-type rear end may be used. Safety hubs recommended. One-inch inspection hole in center of housing is required. Mini-spool or welded spider gears only. Ring-gear, center section and yoke cannot be lightened. Solid axles only. Minimum axle tube thickness to be determined.
13. BUMPERS AND RUB RAILS: (Also see body diagram) Steel only. Front and rear bumpers must be used at all times and be securely mounted with minimum 3/8-inch bolts. Must use minimum 11/4-inch O.D. tubing, .065 wall thickness on front - .095 wall thickness on rear. Two-bar front bumpers must be mounted to front of frame horns with bottom loop parallel to ground. Top bar must be directly above bottom bar, minimum 6 1/2 inches apart, measured center to center. Rear bumper can be no wider than body and must resemble diagram. Rub rails allowed, but can be no more than 1/2-inch thick by 2-inches tall and flush with body. Painted bumpers or rub rails only.

14. TIRES AND WHEELS:
(a) Must use American Racer tire, G-60 (KK704), with I.M.C.A. stamped on sidewall.
(b) All wheels must be 3 inch backspace, painted and display an 'I.M.C.A. approved' decal. No wheel adapters, spacers or bleeder valves. External steel bead lock allowed on right rear only and it cannot make the wheel any narrower than 8 inches and no wider than 8 3/4-inches. One foam or plastic type mud cap allowed on right rear only. Tires must be widest part of car.
15. BRAKES: Only cockpit adjustable device for driver is one crank-type proportioning device (one-to-one ratio), front to rear only. All brake lines must be visible and must connect directly from master cylinder to calipers with no devices in between. Must lock up all four wheels. FRONT: Unaltered front rotors and calipers must match frame. Rotors may be redrilled for different bolt pattern and/or larger studs. REAR: Must have an unaltered, approved, functioning OEM steel caliper and steel rotor on each wheel. Rear caliper brackets must be welded to rear-end housing. Vented rotors only. No scalloped rotors.
16. EXHAUST: Chassis headers only, part numbers to be announced. Must use IMCA609 stamped Schoenfeld mufflers and turn downs. Must be bolted securely or welded. All exhaust must go through mufflers.
17. FUEL SYSTEM: 12-gallon maximum capacity racing fuel cell required. Bladder-type recommended. Must be mounted by at least two solid 2-inch wide, by 1/8-inch thick, steel straps, completely around cell. Fuel cell must be enclosed in steel container,and bolted securely to mounts welded on frame behind rear axle, between rear tires, no lower than bumper. Fuel cell must be a minimum of 4 inches ahead of rear bumper. All fuel cell vents must have check valves. Pick-up outlet must be on top of fuel cell. One OEM-type fuel filter and one fuel line only. One naturally aspirated Holley 4 barrel carburetor only, bolted directly to intake, using one .060-inch thick base gasket. No fuel log. Steel air cleaner housing only. No top flow, offset, diverter type, or dropped-base air cleaner housings. Paper air filter only. Mechanical fuel pumps only.
18. FUEL: Pump gasoline only - maximum 93 octane. No Ethanol or fuel additives of any kind. No Nitrous Oxide. Penalty will be same as engine claim refusal. I.M.C.A. reserves the right to use a spec racing fuel.
19. WEIGHT: Minimum weight limit to be announced. Weights must not be used in driver compartment or outside body. All weights added must be securely mounted with at least two 1/2-inch bolts, painted white, with car number on it. No titanium, magnesium, stainless steel or carbon fiber components allowed anywhere on car. All fasteners on car must be solid steel bolts.
20. BATTERY AND STARTER: One conventional, wet-cell, passenger car 12-volt battery only. Must be securely mounted and shielded in front of rear end housing. Starter must bolt on block in OEM location and directly engage flexplate. Car must start without being pushed or pulled and must join lineup on demand, unaided, or go to rear of that race.
21. GAUGES AND ELECTRONICS: Only ignition device allowed is OEM HEI distributor and I.M.C.A. approved HEI ignition kit. Approved ignition kit to be announced. All wiring must be visible for inspection. Only gauges allowed are oil pressure and water temperature with lights. Kill switch must be clearly marked 'OFF' and 'ON' required within reach of driver.
22. TRANSMISSION AND DRIVE SHAFT: Automatic Powerglide transmissions only. OEM case only, exception, may run I.M.C.A. approved aftermarket bolt-on bell housing. Must have both forward gears, reverse and neutral. With engine running and car in a still position, driver must be able to engage car in gear and move forward, then backward. All OEM functioning levers must be in stock location. Flexplate must bolt directly to crankshaft. Bellhousing must be at least 270 degrees over flexplate area. Must remove torque converter and replace with splined drive flange. No push/bump start mechanisms. Must install fluid lines to hand operated ball valve to engage or disengage drive. Must have approved steel shield -- 1/8-inch by 3-inch -- 270 degrees over top of flexplate area if not utilizing approved aftermarket bell housing. Minimum 2-inch diameter steel drive shaft (painted white). 360-degree driveshaft loop required, constructed of at least 1/4-inch by 2-inch steel or 1-inch tubing, mounted 6 inches back from front U-joint.
23. ENGINE LOCATION: Rear of engine (bellhousing flange) must be mounted at least 72 inches forward from center-line of rear axle. Engine offset must be kept within 2 inches of centerline of front crossmember with engine level. Minimum 11-inch engine height from ground to center of crankshaft.
24. ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS: OEM cast iron, V-8 small-block Chevrolet only (block number to be announced). Maximum 9 to 1 compression and 361 cubic inch limit. Must be acheived by 3.48-inch stroke and 4.060-inch bore (max). Track has option to enforce these restrictions with a Whistler compression gauge and a cubic inch pump gauge, or by visually checking parts and part numbers. All engines must be able to be used in conventional passenger car without alterations. External engine casting and threaded holes cannot be altered.
THE FOLLOWING PARTS/PRODUCTS MUST BE USED:
(a) Unaltered I.M.C.A. approved aluminum intake manifold only. Approved manifold to be announced.
(b) Unaltered I.M.C.A. approved after-market cast iron cylinder heads only. Approved heads to be announced. Heads may be flat milled only. Steel shim head gaskets only, one per head. Must use stamped steel roller tip rocker arms with poly locks.
(c) Must use flat top pistons only, with minimum of zero deck clearance. Only alterations to top of pistons can be valve reliefs.
(d) Unaltered iron crankshaft and stock appearing I-beam rods. Rod bolts may be changed.
(e) Steel timing chain gear, valve covers and fan only.
(f) Solid lifter cam only. Oil Restrictors allowed.
(g) Steel oil pan kit (Speedway Motors part number 910-15141, or similar) with inspection hole required.
(h) Aluminum water pump, pulleys and radiators allowed. Radiator must be mounted in front of engine. Fan must bolt directly to water pump.
Violation of engine rules: 1st offense will result in minimum fine of $1000 and one-year suspension. 2nd offense - permanent supension.
25. ENGINE CLAIMING RULES: Specifics to be announced.
26. PURSE STRUCTURE: Maximum Weekly purse structure to be determined.
27. POINT STRUCTURE:
(A) I.M.C.A. weekly track point structure applies.
(B) National standings are based on driver's best twenty finishes.
(C) Point season for 2002 is from January 1 through September 28.
28. EIRI: (Except in rare instances) Decisions of I.M.C.A. Official(s) are final and binding without exception. In some cases, track safety rules may take precedence over I.M.C.A. rules - any discrepancy between I.M.C.A. and track rules should be brought to attention of I.M.C.A. Any rule changes or clarifications during course of year will be published in Inside I.M.C.A., the official newsletter of I.M.C.A., and will be considered as official part of rules

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Dirt Freak

Total posts: 464
posted May 18, 2002 01:46 PM
Should make it all the same as a reg mod except the drivetrain. Mkae it a ci limit and comp limit with a 500 2 barrell and not limit it to just one brand of eingine. Also i dont think too many will build this when they cant use it and be competitive with a reg mod if they move up, they would have to get another car.

28 mod
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted May 18, 2002 03:18 PM
I don't know if it is really this simple...but for me, the problem was the gauge. I just went to a liquid filled gauge and problem solved. It still bounces until the bypass is closed but as soon as I put a bit of thottle into it, it smooths out.

28 mod
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 3
posted May 18, 2002 03:20 PM
Ooops sorry, wrong string...

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 885
posted May 18, 2002 11:17 PM UIN: 54865418
i agree with you guys let us buy a mod chassis and put our hobby stock motor and tranny in it and go thats the way all the tracks in northern ia and southern minn are running now and it's growing bigger and bigger every year. i don't realy see where the econo part is if you have to buy a $600 spec tranny. myself i plann on running till they make it manditory for the fords then i just won't be able to run the super nats witch is no big deal i just want to run them once and i still could run 2 nites a week after that

modfan
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 24
posted May 19, 2002 05:41 PM
Around here (St.Louis) are b-mod class is the same rules as UMP mods except Holley 500s,gas, cast blocks and heads, oem transmission, must weigh 2650lbs. This a very compettive class and growing every week

RaceDoctor
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted May 19, 2002 08:55 PM
I just finished helping produce a set of rules for a class here in South-East Texas
that will allow most any legal IMCA/UMP chassis to compete but there will be a engine rule similar to a Hobby-Stock with a OEM trans rule(manual or auto). It will probably be sanctioned thru SIMS(Southern Independent Modified Series) based out of the FT.Worth area in 2003. This will be for the racers that cannot afford the 10,000 $
engines that most of the top dogs are running. Just pick up a good used chassis stick a hobby-stock type engine in it and go learn how to drive and set-up a mod, when you think you've got enough money and enough seat time then you can jump back up to a full mod with the same car and hopefully run in the top 5. The claim rule obviously does'nt work down south, I haven't seen an engine claimed in 4 years, so stick some stiff engine rules and stick by them.......
.....just my 2 cents for what it's worth....

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Dirt Freak

Total posts: 464
posted May 19, 2002 09:20 PM
RaceDoctor great idea thats exactly what the IMCA should do.

I know for a fact that the used mod market is saturated with plenty of used cars that could be bought for the range of $3500-$5000 that would be great to use in a limited type class. Most mod guys that run for points or money etc get new ones every year and there is more used mods than guys buying them.
If a guy could use the same car and run limiteds and he liked it he could go up with just an engine change and not a whole chassis change costing more money.

powerglides
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted May 20, 2002 06:30 AM
I think I.M.C.A. is looking at the big picture! Using Regular mod chassis will just allow a guy with money to come in and bring the class up to mod costs in a few years. (Gotta keep up with the fast guy you know)This very thing happened up here in the Northeast DIRT modifieds, the Sportsman class started out with used chassis and stock transmissions ect,etc. But in a couple of years there was no difference between a Sportsman and a big block modified, guys spend 19,000 for a chassis and 12,000 for an engine for $400-500 to win. And there are more used chassis than buyers. I.M.C.A. is leting guys run regular chassis for two years to see how the class catches on. Also this class might help the rest of the country discover I.M.C.A. I love the idea!!!

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 885
posted May 20, 2002 12:26 PM UIN: 54865418
glide the big money in mods is in the motor tranny and shocks if you look at it they have adderesed all those issues except the tranny deal. it's a great idea with the front suspention package there and the spec rear. a spec shock is another way to keep the coast down but making it manditory to run a certin stub is not any cheaper like i said if i run them i will run it till the ford deal comes in and then i'll run other tracks that aren't imca

#28
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 98
posted May 20, 2002 01:47 PM
I thought powerglides were hard enough to come by without making them class mandatory.

ez2bcheesy
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted May 21, 2002 01:58 PM
Just food for thought on the powerglide issue..I agree the supply is dwindling,but, if you increased the supply...???? Maybe IMCA is thinking ahead...I bet you see a rule change in the regular Mods to allow Bert or Brinns next year...This would make a powerglide easier to get...Things that make you go hummmm!!!!

Greggie
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 66
posted May 21, 2002 04:43 PM
I was thinking the same thing as cheesy... I'm guessing 2004, though, just so they (IMCA) can see how the new class goes.

ME

powerglides
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted May 22, 2002 06:06 AM
What about the dwindling supply of Chevy chassis?

moprmike26
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 13
posted May 22, 2002 08:53 AM
Nice try cheezy, but no dice. I don't think that we'll see any such change to allow bert/brinn trannys in mods in the near future. It's still the same imca mod and to allow them trannys would be the same as run a late model with no front fenders on 8" tires. It ain't gonna happen.

ez2bcheesy
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted May 22, 2002 11:59 AM
When I talked to IMCA's Tom Herbert in April concerning the rules for the B-mods he told me that the tranny rule was gonna make alot of people unhappy, but they were gonna try to cure that with doing "something different" with the tranny rules in the regular mods..But, I guess I'll wait for the rules to change before I run out and buy a bert..

devil wrench
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 51
posted May 22, 2002 06:16 PM
mopar...Why do you think that using a bulletproof tranny that costs $1100 is a bad deal? With a $900 triple disc clutch and a $500 lightened three speed (we can't even find them in a junkyard any more in PA), you've got $1400 in it, and it'll probably break. That's not even including the explosion-proof bellhousing that isn't needed with a Bert/Brinn. We've run the same Bert for eight seasons now and the only maintenance needed has been fluid changes and a new seal here and there.

A late model with no fenders and 8" tires??? Boy, the late models must really stink around where you live.

[This message has been edited by devil wrench (edited May 22, 2002).]

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powerglides
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 170
posted May 23, 2002 06:00 AM
I build powerglides for race money and even I think the bert type tranny's are a good idea for the upper mod class!

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