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Mod6M
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted March 29, 2002 07:27 AM
What do you think about moving the shocks off of the birdcages and putting them on the swingarms?I think it would soften the car alot. Anybody tride this on a Z link swingarm car?

Tom Asmus
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 161
posted March 29, 2002 07:41 PM
First of all z link and swing arm are 2 different types of setups. Z link nothing mounts to the trailing arms front or rear!

Mod6M
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted March 30, 2002 08:40 AM
Why do you think this? We run what we call a Z link swingarm. Bird cages with springs mounted on swingarm bars, upperbars pointed back,shocks mounted to birdcage.You may have a different name for it? Swing arm is springs mounted to swingarm bars like a 3 link but mounted on bars.Z-link similer to swingarm zlink but springs do not mount on swingarm bars.

Robcat
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 22
posted April 01, 2002 06:11 PM
Hey Tom, I have a 4 link LR, Rayburn style z-link RR. The spring on the z-link side is mounted to the short swing arm. We have a birdgage mounted shock on the back. The swing arm mounts to the front. I have found that this combination does allow us to run a softer spring combination than all z-link!

I do have another question? One of my crew recently bought a car from Ia. They have long swing arms, with a fixed mount on the axle, and spring mount to the rear on LR & front on RR of the mount. Why have swing arms with nothing on them? Why not just straight bars? Why would be the advantage of having a swing arm on a fixed mount with spring on it!

Sorry if this stuff sounds dumb, but I have enough trouble trying to figure out our 4/z-link deal! Thanks!

CUSTOMPERFORMANCE
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 464
posted April 01, 2002 10:55 PM
Tom is correct they are all different suspensions.

jkittleson
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted April 09, 2002 02:42 PM
Mod6,
To answer your question, it works just fine. I mounted the shocks in front of the coilovers and ran 2 steps stiffer shocks than normal. Usually 5 or 6 valving.

XMod
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 20
posted April 10, 2002 12:58 AM
I HAVE A SWING ARM CAR WITH Z LINKS HAVE NEVER RAN IT ITS MY FIRST MODIFIED,,MATTER OF FACT ITS NOT FINISHED YET SO EXPERIENCE IS DEFF NOT SPEAKING HERE BUT THINKING ABOUT THE SHOCK MOUNTED IN FRONT OF THE SPRING ON THE SWING ARM WOULD CREATE SOME KINDA OF BINDING WITH THE SHOCK BECAUSE OF THE SHORTER ARC THE THE SHOCK MOUNTING POINTS WOULD BE TRAVELING ,,,,MY UNDERSTANDING OF SHOCK FUNCTION IS SORT OF A TIMEING THING(IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO ANYONE) AND IF THE SHOCK HAS A MOMENT OF BIND OR ANGLE TRANSITION ITS CHARACTERISTICS CHANGE ALL TOGATHER DOESNT IT? OR DOES IT? SHOULDNT U ASK THE SHOCK TO WORK AT AS CLOSE TO AN EXACT ANGLE AS THE SPRING AS POSSIBLE??? IM A NEWBIE SO COULD ANYONE TELL ME HOW FAR OFF MY THINKING IS HERE??????????

Mod6M
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 36
posted April 10, 2002 08:24 AM
All we are doing by putting the shocks on the swingarms,Is getting them off of the bird cages, freeing up the bird cage movement and softening the car. You can also mount them just like a 2link to the housing. All a skock does is dampen a spring.

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