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sideways34
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted February 15, 2002 12:56 AM
Does anyone know where I can get a HANS or HUTCHENS device????? And about what price am I looking at?? I have been in forward facing wrecks and my full face helmet has hit my chest, EVEN with my neck roll. help Thanks

Mudrat454
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 17
posted February 15, 2002 02:18 AM
www.hutchensdevice.com www.hansdevice.com
They have the prices listed on the websites!

sideways34
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted February 20, 2002 03:30 AM
Thank you that was a big help.

blanep
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted February 20, 2002 10:05 AM
I think the Hans is a bit pricey for the vast majority of us, but is anyone using or fixing to try out the Hutchens device?

nut3d
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 110
posted February 20, 2002 02:17 PM
I'm am trying to come up with a much ceaper hutchens device for low budget race teams the price range will be around $25 to $30 for it.I'm just now starting to devlope the device.

bkap
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 61
posted February 22, 2002 04:47 PM
Look in the latest edition of Circle Track magazine, in the letters to the editor section. Some guy is using three helmet restraints; one on each side and one on the back. Looks like it could work well, although my experience with the helmet straps is that they tend to work loose during a long race. I'm not sure now they would react to a large impact.

blanep
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 60
posted February 22, 2002 07:04 PM
Nut3d, I am not trying to slam you or your idea with this post. After all, innovation is a huge part of this sport.

With that said, no there is not alot of expense in making a Hutchens-type device. Both the materials and labor would be cheap for such an item. However the makers have spent coutless hours of engineering, sled testing, etc.. to come up with what they have. I would guesstimate that most of the money which they are charging for this and other head and neck restraint devices is to cover R&D costs associated with developing the device.

So, if a person was to copy their proven design then there are of course legal issues to cotnend with. If a person were to come up with a different design that had not been engineered to the umph degree and then tested to the hilt, then the product could very well cause more trauma than would otherwise have been produced during a crash. I dare say that not many people would want to strap into a product such as this which was developed in someone's garage on a shoestring budget when the tested alternative is in the $300.00 range. Again, no offense intended... you may be an engineer who has spent several years studying this and have access to crash sleds and other testing devices as well as a large sum of money to do the proper reasearch, I simply do not know.

PJay72
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 11
posted March 03, 2002 10:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sideways34:
Does anyone know where I can get a HANS or HUTCHENS device????? And about what price am I looking at?? I have been in forward facing wrecks and my full face helmet has hit my chest, EVEN with my neck roll. help Thanks

Check out www.heintzperformance.com! The are in charlotte and sell to all the teams. The Hutchensdevice is pretty affordable.

uforacing51
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 240
posted March 03, 2002 11:36 PM
Blanep
VERY well said...

mwmod34
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted March 04, 2002 06:22 PM
The dollars that they are triing to recover isnt R$D it is the product liability ins. That they have to pay to cover their behinds if someone gets hurt while wearing their device.

neverenoughbrew
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted March 17, 2002 06:17 PM
For a cheap device, we could always have our crew members duct tape our helmets to the seat and bars. A roll of good tape is only $5. Just thought we needed some humor.

WesternAuto17
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 219
posted March 18, 2002 09:07 AM
I think the high price is to cover all the R & D and not liability. They didn't pull those devices out of nowhere. Ever read that little card that comes with your belts and firesuit that says racing is dangerous and you can't sue us if you get hurt doing something dangerous?

Do we, as dirt racers, need head restraints? I don't know, but $300 is relatively cheap insurance. If your gonna wear a restraint, I would say get a real one. A lot of time and money was spent on the Hutchens and I don't think you can copy it with materials from Farm and Fleet and a tape measure.

Also, wouldn't a Hutchens control you head movement in a roll over accident? That type of situation is much more likely than a head-on collision with the wall.

[This message has been edited by WesternAuto17 (edited March 18, 2002).]

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