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Wauge28
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted May 01, 2001 11:08 AM
I ran a mono leaf DW-8 last year and switched to a 4 bar DW-8 this year. In 4 races....I sucked! I think I figured out my problem and it was my driving style. I like to set the car hard in the turn with the brakes and back it into the turn. When I did this with my 4 bar, the car was very tight in the middle of the turn. About half way through the main last week, I drove the car in high and as soon as the body rolled over, it actually turned!!! I was running a 9 inch panard in front of the housing from the LR frame to the LR of the pinion. I think I was setting the car so hard it was standing up on the panard and would not turn??? I switched to a 2 link setup last night because I would rather change my suspension than change my driving style. My problem is that I am stuck on a couple issues. One, Where am I going to run my springs. I am thinking to start with the RR on top of the housing with a ***** jack. the LR either the same or in front with a Coil Over Elim.?? The other big question is the panard bar. Am I going to have the same problem with standing the car up on a short panard with the 2 link? Should I run a J-bar or a long panard like the Harris cars behind the rear.

Right now I run a short torque link with a rubber bisket (AKA Monty bar). 200 LR and 150 RR. Bottom links even and pretty steep. I guess I really don't understand the panard bar and the effects length and angles have on side bite, foward bite etc. I have also been told to run the panard from the LR of the housing to the RR of the chassis (asphalt) and it would be more like my leaf with no panard or j-bar???? HELP!!!! I'm sucking wind on the track. BTW, I haven't tryed the 2 link yet.

BILLY BOB
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted May 01, 2001 01:24 PM
I THINK THE SHORT (PANARD) BAR WAS THE PROBLEM YOU WERE HAVING. A J-BAR MIGHT HAVE HELPED YOU WITH BY TRANSFERING MORE LOAD TOWARDS THE RIGHT REAR. THE THEORY OF THE FOUR BAR IS TO ALLOW YOU TO LOAD THE LEFT REAR WITH BITE AND TURN THE CAR THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE CORNERS WITH THE LOWERS LINKS. WHEN YOU RUN THE SHORT BAR IT SPEEDS EVERYTHING UP AND THE BARS CHANGE ANGLES QUICKER, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOUR BAR ANGLES WERE NOT PROPER FOR THE SIZE TRACK AND YOUR DRIVING STYLE AND IT CAUSE THE CAR TO HAVE A "GAS PETAL PUSH".

ON YOUR TWO LINK YOU MAY THINK ABOUT RUNING A LONG BAR BEHIND THE AXLE OR AGAIN THE J-BAR. TO SMOOTH OUT THE REAR SUSPENSION. IF BEHIND AXLE RUN LEFT SIDE TO FRAME ABOUT 1 1/2" HIGHER ON FRAME FROM REAR TO START. LEFT REAR ELIM. IN FRONT OF AXLE, RIGHT REAR BEHIND. SPRING RATES SOUND OK TO ME.

JUST A SUGGESTION AND COMMENTS
I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE A KNOW IT ALL
CAUSE I FOR SURE DON'T KNOW IT ALL.

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