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cmiller51
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 15
posted June 21, 2001 05:34 PM
I live in Arkansas and race a camaro weekly. We have several tracks in Arkansas and local states that I would love to visit, but the rules vary so much from track to track it makes it impossible to so.
I would love the local tracks to adapt a sanctioning type body for my class of cars. Imca modifieds are very popular in the south. I wonder why the tracks didn't adapt the stock car rules when they started the modifieds?? I realize the leaf spring cars aren't allowed in the Imca rules, but I would gladly build a coil car in exchange for runnng different tracks. Anybody else have an opinion?

poboy2
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 95
posted June 21, 2001 07:27 PM
I totally agree! I have read other posts on this topic, and everyone seems to agree that a common set of rules for this class would be ideal, yet nothing ever happens. I would love to see someone with the right connections sep-up to the plate and take charge, and I would call for track owners to make a commitment to joining in to help the effort.

sideways
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted June 21, 2001 09:06 PM
I think you guys have hit the nail on the head!Even lower buck guys like to travel to different tracks.We need a central set of rules and track owners to adapt to these.

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted June 21, 2001 10:35 PM
I am in total agreement with you guys. We would like to be able to race more tracks but the rules are so different that we would have to have alot more money. Even if the money was not an issue it would take to long to set the car up to run more than one track a week. I wonder if there could be some form of a "coutesy" rule that would help some of us out?........ Just a thought.

cmiller51
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 15
posted June 22, 2001 08:24 AM
Yeah, but courtesy rules only get you through the first night..You either dominate the field, and the track doesn't want you back. Or you get blown away because you were on a 2 barrel and asphalt take-offs when the other guys were on 750 4-barrel and big block Hoosiers!!
Either way, it's not as fun as it could be if it were sanctioned.

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted June 22, 2001 10:14 PM
Then maybe the key is not only coming up with a uniform set of rules or sanctioning body that the tracks can adopt but finding ways to show the tracks and promoters why this would be in "their" best interest. Since the tracks are basically businesses, they tend to make their decisions based on what is good and/or profitable for them. I"m not saying this is a bad thing, just that you need to win over the ones that make the decisions, by showing them that it would be in their best interest to adopt a santioning body.
For example- within 100 miles of my home their are 4 tracks that run on 3 diff. nights. We can only run one of these due to the vast difference in the rules. If the tracks all had the same rules we would be runing at least 2 tracks a week, Thus this other track would have another entrant bringing their car count up and with rising car counts comes the rising profit margin for the tracks. I'm not saying that this is a really good idea, I'm just thinking online and inviting others to do so.
There are guys on this forum that have much more knowledge than I and I'm sure that if they participate alot can be accomplished.

jammin
Dirt Administrator

Total posts: 3279
posted June 22, 2001 10:26 PM UIN: 16262997
I have been following this post for a while now......I am wondering if it would be possible for a large group of drivers to build a set of rules and stay with those rules so that this could happen. If so, would it be necessary for the drivers to work on the track's to inforce these rules that you set. In some sort it is a sanction, but not really. If rules are set, then costs dont go up and it will help....what do you think? If we got enough drivers and cars to work off of these rules, then standardization could come. There has to be one centralized location for these rules though.

jammin

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted June 22, 2001 10:56 PM
The first thing maybe to see how large the group of drivers is that are interested. If enough people are interested then maybe we can try to put together a rough draft of what steps the group thinks should be taken to better the racing experience for all.
I ask that everyone think about this. How many drivers at your track do you believe will partipate in a program to make this happen?
There are some interesting possiblities here. Let's see a show of hands.....er......ah.......posts.

sideways
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted June 22, 2001 10:59 PM
I think that would be possible.But how would you get the tracks to go along with it?

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted June 22, 2001 11:47 PM
Sideways, that would be one of the issues that would have to be tackled after a group of drivers have decided to try this. There are dozens of different approaches and which is best would rely on several factors such as.....Where does the most members of the group live and drive? Are some of them willing to run some of the other tracks if this goes into effect? And many more.
You know sometimes a group can push things thru if they are the majority. But even the minority can set the ball rolling by banding together and taking a methodical approach.
I still think that it is possible to show the tracks why it would be in their best interest to adopt such a system of rules. Just keep in mind that the rules must favor both the driver and the track and we must also be willing to run by the rules we set.
Perhaps I should change my login to dirtactivist4u2.LOL.......C'mon guys lets see what we can do.

sideways
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 81
posted June 24, 2001 11:36 AM
It all sounds good but it wont be easy but the good things in life never are."Mr.dirtactivist4u2."

poboy2
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 95
posted June 24, 2001 05:27 PM
I would be interested in hearing what your guys idea of a good set of rules would be. Personally, I like the IMCA stock car rules, but I know that would be hard to enforce around here. IMCA limits what can be gutted from the car, while around here I can tell you that there isn't much that is NOT cut out of the cars around here. What do you guys think??

dirtracer4u2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted June 24, 2001 11:33 PM
Alright........lets see. Yeah Poboy it would be hard to come up with a set of rules that will work everywhere but maybe we can try. I believe that some form of the IMCA rules may be the answer. Would some of you guys be willing to email me the rules you are currently running under? I might be able to form a rough draft using those and the IMCA rules.Then it would be up to you to help me smooth them out. It would at least give everyone something to debate and would stir up support either for or against. We still need more people to show interest.
Yeah sideways you got that right this ain't oz and I ain't the wizard but lets see what we can do.
If anyone thinks that this is a bad thing then please respond. There are two sides to everything and under the circumstances both views are important.

[This message has been edited by dirtracer4u2 (edited June 24, 2001).]

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