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wingnut
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 70
posted January 18, 2003 11:37 PM
looking back through some old magazines i say where you mounted the front shocks on top of the a arm, how well did this work,and how would a guy go about bending the "grass hopper" bar with a 90* bender. how long of a peice of tube would we need to start with using 1 1/4 tube . thanks for your help.

SLEEPY GOMEZ
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 199
posted January 19, 2003 12:02 AM
Hi Wingnut, yeah I'm still here, only moved. See Stock Car Racing magazine, I think next month. It has taken me a while to get settled and get my shop put back together.

The upper mounted shocks work great. It lets me run a soft ( #5) valve because the shock is at the wheel. They don't get damaged as easily either. It may not look like it but the grasshopper bar is bent on a 90 %. How long? Get something, agarden hose will work, to simulate the bar. Cut the tubing long , then trim as necessary. I really like shocks mounted this way.
SLEEPY

loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted January 19, 2003 07:02 AM
Sleepy ,Great to hear from you again! I really enjoy your new build up in SCR, I'd like to see more pictures though... I'm sure it's the editor's fault. loojack

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66jj
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 352
posted January 19, 2003 01:12 PM
i saw in a magazine that jet i think is making mounts for the upper bj to mt the shock on...

hey sleepy whats up with the exact same articles in circle track and stock car?? namely the project mudslinger..

jeff

sixwillwin
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 215
posted January 19, 2003 02:59 PM
Nothing compares to Speedway Illustrated. Like 66jj said, the others have the same articles, amount of advertising is unreal and best(worst) of all ...a $15,000+ 4 cylinder buildup!!!...they need to get in the real world

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istock59
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 237
posted January 19, 2003 09:03 PM
The stockcar that Wayne Larson Racing is building now also has the shocks mount on top of the upper a-arm. He doesn't use a grasshopper style let, but a tie-bar that goes over the top of the motor.

wingnut
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 70
posted January 22, 2003 09:57 PM
sleepy, thats for the response.

powerglides
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted January 23, 2003 01:55 PM
I spoke with Sleepy (great guy) on the phone and he told me that SCR and CTR know they are off track (to say the least)and are trying to get back on track. I let my sub to SCR run out. I think they are headed in the right direction but have a LONG way to go. Also the subscription dept is all messed up and did not send my last issue. Yes I e-mailed them but keep getting the run around.

66jj
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 352
posted January 23, 2003 05:13 PM
I get speedway Ill. also, I think they might be a better magazine at least they havent published a story about rolling a cage around on the floor to weld it, lol...

where do they get these people to build these cars???


as for circle track
what about that old yellow camaro dirt car they built and ran in southern ca. that dnf'd a half dozen races with power steering problems??

loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted January 24, 2003 03:57 AM
Yea, The 37 car, I think they went to a high dollar p/s system to cure the problem. Seems these magazines just try to sell their advertiser's products not help the low buck guy... Just my 2 cents... loojack
And what's up with Circle Track and Stock Car Racing runnng the same articles about a month apart??????

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SCR/CT
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 2
posted January 25, 2003 03:21 PM
Hi All,

Roger Mealey here, the Group Sales Director for Circle Track and Stock Car Racing. I don't think James will mind that I address some of your comments here about the magazines. Your comments about the magazines are in most part completely correct. The edit while under the ownership of EMAP reached a sad state, so much so that I quit the company a couple of years ago. It got to the point where I was embarrassed to go to the tracks. However, Primedia bought the company in August 2001 and believe it or not the corporate structure there will actually listen. They assigned a new publisher for the titles and he asked me to come back and I did so in March of last year. Speedway Illustrated also wanted me to come there but I really wanted to do an all grassroots format and I knew they wouldn't do that. Since that time we have gone on a rampage changing most of the personnell and we have totally revamped the edit formats. I have tried to get Circle Track changed to an all grassroots format since 1995 but the previous companies had NASCAR dollars in their eyes. Yes, we all know that's not where it's at but try explaining that to someone who doesn't know the market. Well finally I got my way and Circle Track is going ALL grassroots from Street Stocks to Late Models, mostly tech, with a heavier percentage of dirt. We have removed all of the Cup, Busch and Craftsman truck stuff with the exception of Bob Myers monthly article which typically runs 2 to 4 pages. Bob has been with Circle Track since its inception so we did not want to move him to Stock Car. Stock Car will continue to do feature articles on Cup down to about Late Models but the tech in Stock Cat will now focus strictly on Street Stock, Hobby type divisions including mini-stocks and some scale cars. Sleepy has been brought on staff to take care of the tech edit. The thing I like about Sleepys' articles is that he has been there, done that like most racers, racing on a shoestring budget and finding ways to go faster with limited funds.

We have also hired Bob Bolles as Senior Tech editor for Circle Track. Bob is a degreed Mechanical Engineer and has been a chassis consultant for everything from Mini-Stocks to Winston Cup both dirt and asphalt. Larry Jewett is the new editor of Circle Track. Larry has been a racer himself and he has been around short track racing most of his life.

As far as the articles showing up in both titles, that will be stopping soon. When we changed the edit formats we wanted to get the edit started in Stock Car as soon as possible so we used the mini-stock edit to help get that started short term. These articles take a lot more time to put together than you might think. There will always be subjects in racing that will need to be covered in both magazines but we will typically take different angles on them between the two mags.

As far as the price of the project Mudslinger mini-stock, I agree that's a pricey piece however it will mostly run at Cherokee SC and they run some serious stuff there. Keep in mind that when we do a project we try to show the reader as much of the new trick stuff as possible. In doing so we usually end up with an expensive car. I have developed a new project car for Circle Track that is going to accomplish something that no other oval track magazine has ever done. We are building a Modified that will utilize a PI Research Data acquisition system for monthly test articles. We will be testing everything that we and the readers can think of and I'm certain some of it will get pretty wild.

Sorry for the long-winded answer but I did want to address these subjects and I hope you all will take a look at the new edit formats. If you would like to respond please do so at my business e-mail roger.mealey@primedia.com. All of the editors mentioned above can be reached using this same e-mail format with a period between the first and last names.

Thank You,

Roger Mealey

loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted January 26, 2003 06:47 AM
Thanks, I'm glad to hear this. The only reason I renewed my subscriptions to both (CT and SCR) was Sleepy's articles. I realize the the advertisers pay the way, but it seems that most build up projects turn into info-mercials. I like the articles for the do-it-yourselfer, that don't feature a lot of high dollar after market parts. There needs to be room for the little guy too..IMHO loojack

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SCR/CT
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 2
posted January 26, 2003 10:21 AM
Thanks for the reply Loojack. You will definately see more low dollar articles in both magazines. The Modified coming up in Circle Track will be a more high dollar piece than most of the cars out there but it is for a reason. We will be using this car for a long time and we wanted a good strong bottom end for reliability. We are using the new double adjustable Pro shocks for time savings at the track. We will be using a lot of time at the track changing sensors for the PI system and changing components for "A" - "B" tests. Therefore anything we can do to save time will be beneficial.

Keep an eye out for the test articles and let us know what you think.

Thanks,

Roger

66jj
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 352
posted January 26, 2003 10:57 AM
Thanks for the response, Im glad the double dipping of articles was only temporary, as I have 3 years left of ct and at least 2 of stock car I think.

jeff

bobaluuu
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted January 26, 2003 08:11 PM
wingnut,thats my dogs namelol, just thought ya outta know

powerglides
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted January 27, 2003 06:56 AM
Roger.
Good to see progress. As far as the mini stock $ I thought the Idea was to outwit the next guy not outspend him. Also I'm really tired of geting jerked around on my last two issues of SCR from the guy from Four Wheeler mag!! Don@corporatepage.com

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