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justin
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 167
posted October 09, 2002 12:37 PM
I came across a pretty good deal on an '88 IROC camaro that I really don't want to pass up. The guy that has it is make me an offer of $250 and it's in fair running condition. Has anyone ever set up a car like this to race. I have seen a few of 'em and the guys that raced'em were FAST. But I know the front end is pretty weak on'em so I was wondering about replacing the front clip on it w/ a 70's camaro clip and still taking advantage of the 88's rear suspension. Would this work? Has anyone ever done this? What do ya'll think the pros and cons of this type of setup would be. Just looking for ya'lls opinions. Thanks in advance. I appreciate it.

Justin

rico 08
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted October 09, 2002 02:44 PM
one really good thing about these cars is they have a torque arm running up to the trans for bite they may bite so much you may have to take some bite out!but the front end is weak one guy said one tap and his strut would bend in half almost so if u could strengthen them you could stay with the original stub another problem is getting enuf negative camber in the rt front without cutting the towers up,oh and the stock struts won't hold up in racing conditions it seems after a few laps it's almost as though you have no shocks at all.

te33
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted October 09, 2002 03:18 PM
built it,raced it.sitting out back with a bent front.they are fast,the car was done in a hit that i should have driven a way from.the main problem is the sheet metal front frame.it DOESN'T take a hit well.yes,we braced it, it bent around every place we didn't.as for the 2nd gen snout,i'll let you know.already working on it!the stock springs out of an iroc are not to bad,as for the camber concern,drill new holes for the strut plate 1 inch inboard from stock.do NOT lower the car ,the tires will hit in the wheel wells{2257015's}if you go aftermarket on springs,think light.i found just putting a 6 cyl.spring in lf did the trick.the next problem is the front torque arm bracket,these cars never came with a 350th,or a glide.you gots to make it.pretty easy,took about 3 hrs.they also run hot!you have to open up the nose and install an air box,a good 4 blade fan,and shroud,we also found antifreeze cooled better than water.we didn't run much stagger,and had to run ballast in right side to loosen it up.if we got i t loose enough off,with more stagger it would be way to loose in.they are easy to drive,impossible to spin out,without some help and disposible.so be ready to build a new one!


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justin
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 167
posted October 09, 2002 03:27 PM
Thanks for the input so far fellas! Any more opinions out there?

redneck racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 276
posted October 11, 2002 01:15 PM
Justin ran against a kid that had an 85 with an 80's subframe under it the car was very fast, he connected it in with 2x2x3 seemed to work well, have thoght about this myself. Eddie

outlawstock17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 620
posted October 11, 2002 03:09 PM
keep building them te33. it's only a matter of time before there are no metrics or 2nd generation camaros left. you'll be way ahead of everyone else when they HAVE to start building them. i'm running an '89 mustang with basically the same modified macpherson strut front end as the 3rd generation camaro. raced it 8 times so far and i'm gettin' real close........

66jj
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 352
posted October 14, 2002 01:19 PM
NEWER CAMAROS ARE WEAK IN FRONT, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT FROM ANOTHER SIDE, YOU CAN PUT A 2X3 TUBE STRAIGHT ACCROSS ABOVE THE FRONT SPRINGS, ATTATCHING IT TO THE ONLY STEEL ON THE CAR( THE LITTLE CLIP, CROSS MEMBER) YOULL HAVE TO SPLIT THE TIN FRONT RAIL AND DROP IT IN, AND REDRILL THE PS BOX MT, OF COURSE THEN YOU WANT TO FINISH CONNECTING THE SUBFRAMES SO YOU END UP WITH A FAB CAR FRONT TO REAR ITS NOT THAT HARD, JUST A MESSY JOB IF YOU DONT HAVE IT ALL REALLY CLEAN TO START.. IF YOU DONT REINFORSE IT LIKE THIS YOULL BE REPLACING THE FRONT END FREQUENTLY..

WHEN YOU CUT THE ANGLES IN THE RECT TUBING CUT HALF ON EACH PIECE, 22.5 FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WANT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE THEYLL FIT RIGHT UP PERFECT.

ALSO KYB STRUTS HAVE OVERSIZED SHAFTS AND ARE GETTING CHEAPER EVERY DAY IN SUMMIT..

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