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tsmith2
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 16
posted October 04, 2002 02:35 PM
Why does it seem like a lot of tracks are moving away from the outlaw street stock classes. Every where i look they seem to be doing away with street stock and moving to "superstock" or "limited late model" or "sportsman" These classes all run quite a bit different... they are lighter, more powerful, and the suspension is a lot more complicated. Our car is about 300-400 pounds heavier than the heaviest of most of our competition. Our last race weight was about 3500#'s (we added 100# to get more rr rollout from the norm) We run our suspension in stock location with stock parts (most of the time) and we still win more races than we don't win. But we like to travel (within reason) to expose our sponsors to other areas and also just to race new tracks. Year before this one we raced at 8 or 9 different tracks plus won our points at our local track. This year we went to 2 tracks.

The whole point is its getting harder to find places to race where our car is legal and we don't have to be moved up a class and be totally outclassed. That and most of the time the pay out isn't worth the time and travel. We are definitely not in racing for the money...everthing we win goes back into the car. This is part of the reason we are thinking of moving up to modified next year....we would prefer late model but....$$$$$$$ is in short hand (at least the kind of money to run a late model competitive it is)

Any suggestions or comments????

rico 08
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 372
posted October 04, 2002 02:52 PM
you're right i think the reason is to have a place for the old latemodel chassis to go b-mod does the same thing it takes a outdated chassis and lets it be run again in a limited class it's really a good idea unless they do away with another class say streetstock, when these guys move up and try to run with an older latemodel chassis they get smoked and it's not fair.I watched a street stock class a while back and someone had a modified with a camaro body and it was a 2000 dirtworks! definitely not fair.

teamstertom
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 89
posted October 04, 2002 05:06 PM
It is hard to get 25 guys to agree on anything as a group,so to develop a sanctioning body to run a outlaw street stock at a number of tracks would be a task. I like what Wissota classes have done where your points follow you track to track where Wissota is the sanctioning body. I would love to see more of this type of organized racing racing in street stock racing where you are able to take your car to different tracks and run the same rules as everyone else with enforcement of those rules. I think running at a number of different tracks,makes you a better racer,and teaches you and your team how to adapt to other race conditions.

Flatlander
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 310
posted October 04, 2002 07:32 PM
We have the same problems here in the south I don't think that drivers are the biggest problem I think promoters are they want the cars to run at their track as much as possible ado the rules accordingly we can run 3 diff classes within a 50 mile radius some not fair to us some not fair to track cars

Eljojo
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 273
posted October 05, 2002 03:04 PM
Absolutly, Flatlander! The promoters want their cars to stay at HOME!Very few Gap cars are legal to run Tazwell and neither would be competitive @ Atomic! So what do ya do? None of those promoters would be willing to listen to ideas that might cause them to lose even one car on a given Saturday night.

monteregal7
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 45
posted October 06, 2002 10:00 AM
tsmith2,
We have working on that same thing here in IL. We have nearly 100 drivers signed up from IL and IN. We started calling ourselves C.A.R. Street Stocks. Central states Association of Racers. We have yet to get promoters to get things going. A couple of big name sponsers have agreed to help out. This idea of "unified" rules would help the class across the country. Like modifieds and late models, you could race anywhere.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1565
posted October 06, 2002 05:37 PM UIN: 54865418
one big thing that kills the outlaw classes if guys with the money to run the upper classes up don't for some reason want to i guess they think it's more fun to lap a guy with half as much a budget then to race with someone on the same. the one good thing here in iowa most tracks are either imca or run pretty much the same rules up untill they made the 350 carb rule in imca a guy could run 4 days a week within 120 miles. myslef if i was a promoter i would do it justy like that sure if you have odd ball rules it keeps low budget home town guys at your track but it keeps anybody form coming in and proving just how good your guys are

monteregal7
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 45
posted October 06, 2002 05:51 PM
Well I like a challenge. If ya can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

outlawstock17
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 620
posted October 06, 2002 05:57 PM
hey guys, we have an outlaw stock/street stock class at tulsa speedway. the last race of the season, we had 24 cars start the "A" feature. bacisally run watcha brung with 1 4 bbl. gas or alky, cast iron heads and blocks in a stck type chassis. everything else is okay. no quickchanges. we never turn a car away. bring it.

PEDDLER
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 298
posted October 09, 2002 08:03 PM
Look at the rules for Lubbock Motor Speedway for the big race on Oct 10-13. My friend is finishing a new outlaw S.S. to run there this weekend.

The Peddler

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