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Author Topic:   Malibu vs Monte Carlo
WesternAuto17
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted August 09, 2001 08:25 AM
Alright, I'm starting to build a new car and I have a question. While I know a camero is the first choice, they're gettin hard to come by. I'm all but committed to building an '84 Monte Carlo, but I also have a '73 Malibu. Would there be any benefit to using the older car? I see very few of these cars running, but I also see modified cages made for these cars. Just lookin for opinions. Thanks.

racer17j
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted August 09, 2001 10:27 AM UIN: 54865418
well first of all your gonna run into the same problem as with the camaro withthe malibu parts are getting hard to find.the front end geometry is said to be better thats why they use them on mods but even alot of fast mods are being built on metric stubs now a days. but all in all the big reason for a metric over a standard car is weight savings unless you have a heavy rule like 3500 or something still that give you more room to place weight where you need it on a metric

WesternAuto17
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Total posts: 32
posted August 09, 2001 01:07 PM
That's what I was thinking, too. Our weight rule is 3000lbs. I have a parts car along with the '73 and thats why I was considering it. Thanks for the input -- I think I'll stay with the metric. I have a '79 Malibu right now and its treated me OK.

dirtracer17
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Total posts: 36
posted August 09, 2001 06:38 PM
Go with the metric car. I had a 77 monte carlo that weighed 3700#. Had a metric built and it weighs 3045 with driver. Also there are plenty of parts cars out there. 80-87 monte,regals,cutlass and grand prix. also s-10 pickups run the same spindles. If interested in having a car built go to coxracingchassis.50megs.com and check out their cars. Mine is the 17 car on their site.

[This message has been edited by dirtracer17 (edited August 13, 2001).]

mtwrght
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted August 10, 2001 11:45 PM
I would not worry about the weight. I am running a 76 Olds cutlass that weighs 2995 with driver and no lead!! and i still have the stock floor pan and firewall

redneck bubbas racing
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted August 12, 2001 08:48 PM
My gosh, How in the world did you get it so light!?! I run a 77 cutlass and although I am a bit hefty (235) the car still weighs in at 3800. Granted I have a stout cage but I don't run nerf bars either. Sure wish I could get that light. We have a 3400 rule but man 400 lbs in the rear would help my percentages.

kj
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted August 13, 2001 11:53 PM
Just a suggestion but i have had no problems with my caprice. You can cut the weight to 3000 and there are parts all over. If you get p.o.ed you can always use it in a demmo derby.
Later,
K.J.

mtwrght
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted August 14, 2001 11:36 PM
it does take a lot of work besides completely gutting the body the trunk pan is gone,i only weight 145, and i bought the chassis this way and wish it wasn't so but i do not have a front or rear hoop but don't think this would add up to more than 200 lbs.

MOD RACER#93
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 251
posted August 15, 2001 02:04 AM
id use the 73 malibu and put the 86 monte carlo body on it..if you gut it out good you can get the weight down. remove the rocker panels on the floorpan and replace with sheetmetal to cover. the 73 will have a much better rear end.. wich u will prolly wind up using in the 86 monte carlo anyway. and if you have a parts car your one step ahead. were the 73 stuff is durable the metric parts are lighter and bend easier. the front end design is better on the 73. the metric mods have alot been done to correct the front end geometry....just my thoughts.

racer17j
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted August 15, 2001 09:40 AM UIN: 54865418
MOD HOW WOULD YOU PUT A BODY THAT IS A COUPLE INCHES NARROWER AND ABOUT 4 INCHES SHORTER IN WHEEL BASE ON THAT FRAME THING WOULD LOOK LIKE A VOODO WAGON AND MOST RULES CALL FOR A STOCK FIRE WALL AND FLOOR PAN

DEEDDUDE
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted August 15, 2001 10:19 AM
17J, The shorter bodys can be put on the larger frame. A few guys around here have and the cars look OK. Center the body up over the wheelwells as best you can and then cut them out for clearance. There are several metric bodies on older chevelle frames at the track Modracer rases at. There is also a Nova with a 99' factor Monte Carlo body on it. It is kinda freaky looking at first, but it grows on you. This guy runs in my class and is fast. He's been to tech quite a bit and I don't think much was ever said. If you think tech will have a problem give them a call and tell them you need to reskin your car and all you have is a new monte body. If they allow it ask the guys name and thank him. Let him know that you'll be out in a few weeks and are looking forward to racing at his track. One more car equals more paying fans(your friends and family).
All that said I run a metric frame car. My car weighed 2800lbs. w/o me in it. I added allot of heavy bars down low to stiffen it up and still had to add over 400lbs, to make weight. They can be built even lighter. One of the guys who runs up front each week at our track also runs a metric car. I'm not, YET. Run with what you can get parts for easier. Good Luck. Deed

WesternAuto17
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Total posts: 32
posted August 15, 2001 03:46 PM
Long live centimeters!! You have given me alot to consider, but I think I'm gonna go with the Monte. I think the weight considerations are more important than anything else. Getting the monster Malibu down to 3000 lb is definetly possible, but the Monte will easily get down to 2700 with 300 to play with. The rear end consideration isn't important b/c I'm running a 9 inch. Besides, a '73 Malibu painted like an '89 Tide DW car would be pretty hideous. Thanks for the input.

dirtracer17
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Total posts: 36
posted August 16, 2001 06:32 PM
As far as weight goes, my car without driver and add on weight is less than 2500# Metric frame, 82 Buick regal And you are right westernauto about the 73 malibu, it would be hideous!!

Racer0
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 20
posted August 17, 2001 07:40 AM
Run the boo. I cam always us the extra monte parts for myself..

VIPER000
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Total posts: 151
posted August 21, 2001 01:35 PM
HEY REDNECK BUBA 3800 IS VERY HEAVY HAVE YOU SHELLED THE CAR. I MEAN MOST OF THE CARS AROUND HEAR ARE ABOUT 2900-3400LB BUT THE BODY JUST HANGS OFF THE CAGE.

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