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Author Topic:   setup changes for Dryslick track
ispinuwin
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted March 13, 2001 07:45 PM
I currently run a 3200 lb street stock on a 1/3 mile semi-high banked clay track. It seems that the only time I can hook up in the feature event is when I run the cushion, but others are taking the low line and making it work. I am very fast early, but if we end up in the last event of the night I'm lost. My setup is lf-1000&1076 afco,rf-1150&1077,lr-250&1095,rr200&1095. left%52 rear54% cross51.5%,we run on G-60's and use weight jacks. This will be my second year so I didn't mess with my setup much last year between heats. Any help will be appreciated, thanks.

24Crew
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 17
posted March 13, 2001 09:35 PM
Try lowering your tire pressures all the way around by 3-5 lbs., depending on how hard your tires are. All I know are the goodyear asphalt take-offs we run and they are STIFF. I do know less pressure will help the traction on harder/more packed surface.

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Rooster
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 90
posted March 13, 2001 10:13 PM
Something we use to do back when we ran street stocks, of course no weight jacks, we would run reverse stagger on the rear, it always made the car quicker. I guess it would be like running more left rear, or more cross. It really tightened the car up through the corners. (just some notes from history) LOL

junkyard
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted March 13, 2001 10:33 PM
24 crew is on the right path. Also take out all stagger. I have always had problems running reverse stagger, but it might work in your situation. I would start small. Another thing to try is add a spacer to the left rear or go to a 2 inch offset wheel.

g400
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 9
posted March 13, 2001 10:48 PM
I see you said this was your second year racing.Don't want to sound critical,but are you changing your driving style as the track slicks up?Rolling the car into the corner and trying to keep it under you,and smooth throttle application exiting the corners would be some things to try.If you can run 4-wheel brakes this would be a must for the slick track.I'm not real familur with the tires you are running,but i wouldn't be affraid to carry the rear % on up to 55 or 56 %.Also to help with the smooth throttle,we have slowed ours down before.

racer17j
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted March 14, 2001 03:04 AM UIN: 54865418
are you to loose or does the car push? air pressure and stagger and wheel off set are all you should need to change after you have the car scaled out right and g400 has it right on the money it takes a lot more patience to run the bottom and a lot more throttle control I know I had the same prob tried to run it in to hard and pushed all the way to the top of the track. get a tape and watch what everybody else is doing and see if you can pick anything else up from a different view point

Hired Gunn
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 7
posted March 14, 2001 11:27 AM
g400 hit it on the money, smoooooooth wins on slick tracks. Roll off the gas easy going into the turn, keep the nose straight, pretend you have an egg under the pedal. Also, I'm not sure what carb you can run, but a vac. secondary is very good for a track that get's slick and put on a stiffer carb return spring, as well as moving the LR and RF out.

Practice and Patience is the only answer.

ispinuwin
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted March 14, 2001 06:07 PM
Thanks everyone, I'm sure I can make something work now.

MOD RACER#93
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 251
posted March 14, 2001 08:21 PM
Also good brakes help. i dont have good aftermarket brakes on my stock and sometimes have trouble running tha bottom cause it will go in good but then bust loose when i apply the brakes. probably cause i have to much rear brake percent. if you can put an adjuster in the line. or get good aftermarket brakes. i would like to know how you got 54% rear. i only have 50% rear, my car also weigh's 3200, and i have alot of lead in front of the lr tire. your car must be totally gutted, no floarboards, im assuming. are you running any weight behind the rear end??? if so this could be a problem. also try running a stiffer rf spring. i run a 1300lb. on a 3/8 mile, the others are the same as you mentioned.

hesseracing
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 18
posted March 14, 2001 10:10 PM
im not familiar with the tire u use but i use hoosiers on my street stock. the same as the ones ump latemodels use. i go from 20 compounds all the way around to either 30's or 40's on the right side. this helps me but i dont know if you can get a harder tire to use.

owracer
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 103
posted March 14, 2001 11:13 PM
If the track is smooth, I would suggest going to softer shocks.Taking stagger out of the rear and adding it to the front, adding more offset to the left rear. Putting a easy up shock on the right front, and changing your corner entry driving style will help also. If you have adjustable brakes changing your front to rear bias will help too. You will need to decide which of these is the best for you, change one thing at atime to find what helps the most. I generally have to do most of these changes because the track changes so much from the heat to the feature.

ispinuwin
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 5
posted March 15, 2001 07:56 AM
Modracer, I gut all but between the frame on firewall and floorboard. Pinto spindles, mini clutch and so on. Thanks for the info, I just put disks on rear and adjuster on the pedals. Hope this lets me fine tune my entry.
g400-you say to help with the smoothe throttle you slowed yours down, in what way do you slow it down, do you mean timing, linkage...?

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g400
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 9
posted March 16, 2001 12:27 PM
Yes,you can make the throttle rod lower in the rear.I have drilled extra holes in the pedal so i can lower it.Also you can bend the rod so it is lower.If you run a holley 4-barrell,they have a lever rod(from front barrell to rear that opens rear)that is for dryslick tracks.It will slow the 4-barrell down.Makes it open slower and smoother.There is a few tricks to slow the 2-barrell and quadrejet 4 barrell down also.

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