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34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted October 27, 2000 06:01 PM
Every time I go into the corner my car is loose. I have my battery and fuel cell located on the left side of the car. But when I use a socket and a jack and jack up the rearend of the car it leans to the right.This is my first year racing and I don't have any scales so this is the only way I have to check the weight. I can race at one track and every thing seems fine but when I go to this other track my car wants to get friendly with the wall. Has anyone else had this problem if so maybe they can help. Thanks

jammin
Dirt Administrator

Total posts: 3279
posted October 27, 2000 06:10 PM UIN: 16262997
You really need a set of scales........I will have some here if your interested in buying some. They are used, but work well.

Mad Racing scales...you use then with bathrooms scales...not too bad.

speedster
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 94
posted November 17, 2000 08:48 PM
sounds like if it works at one track but not at another you might be fighting a stagger problem if the two tracks have different banking its also possible you have to learn the driving line at the one track? when ever I go some place that I'm not familiar with I go out and hot lap with the fastest guy they have and follow his line!remember your following his line watch were they let off the gas and get back on it and if they roll on the gas or hammer down on exit. if you go in to hot you are more then likely causing your own push/loose and you can change the world and buy all the fancy go fasts there are and still have a push or loose condition? well I hope this helped even a little.

34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted November 23, 2000 05:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by speedster:
sounds like if it works at one track but not at another you might be fighting a stagger problem if the two tracks have different banking its also possible you have to learn the driving line at the one track? when ever I go some place that I'm not familiar with I go out and hot lap with the fastest guy they have and follow his line!remember your following his line watch were they let off the gas and get back on it and if they roll on the gas or hammer down on exit. if you go in to hot you are more then likely causing your own push/loose and you can change the world and buy all the fancy go fasts there are and still have a push or loose condition? well I hope this helped even a little.

34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted November 23, 2000 05:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 34Racing:


Thanks for the info guys I hope to take some weight out of my car this winter and possibly find someone with some scales to help me out. Stagger could be some of my problem I don't think I had but about 2 inches in the back.

BK19
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 97
posted November 23, 2000 06:04 PM UIN: 40696038
if you use the socket method as soon as the left rear tire breaks loose when jacking it up you should be able to at least slide a pack of smokes under the right rear tire i have anywhere from 1 to 3 inches depending on track conditions it works for me i won 5 features this year never having my car on a scale

34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted December 01, 2000 12:19 PM
BP I tried the socket method and the left tire was about 2 inches off the ground before the right tire came off of the ground. I have my fuel cell and battery on the left side so I thought the right side would come up first. But it didn't.

BK19
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 97
posted December 01, 2000 06:20 PM UIN: 40696038
what are your spring rates? and how tall are they? do you have wieght jacks?

34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted December 02, 2000 02:20 PM
Spring rates in the front are #1000 Right Front #800 Left Front. Rear springs are stock not sure on the spring rates. My car weighs around #3200 I'm also still running both the front and rear sway bars. I don't know if this matters are not.Springs are 12 inches in front Weight jacks are not allowed in my class. 1979 Buick Regal is what type of car I drive.

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted December 02, 2000 02:37 PM UIN: 16262997
Let me know if you need a set of scales....one of our new sponsors (Mad Racing(www.madone.net)) sells a set for about 300 that will scale your car out and you will know what you have...otherwise your just stabbing at it. If you want a set of used scales...I have a set for 200 if your interested. Just PM me or email me....

jammin

BK19
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 97
posted December 02, 2000 03:46 PM UIN: 40696038
34 racing i run a 82 regal have 1350 on rf 1250 on lf 250 on left rear 200 on rr and i do not run sway bars usaually sway bars are used if you run asphalt alot of peaople will disagree but if you have the right springs you dont need sway bars my right rear is about 1.5 inches off the ground when the left rear just starts to spin my car also wieghs 3200 with me in it and i have the bat and fuel cell to the left

34Racing
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted December 03, 2000 02:30 PM
Thanks guys I guess my first job should be to get my rear springs checked and buy some new ones if needed. This might be some of my problem.

Kojak
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted December 06, 2000 01:13 PM
How do you perform the socket method, BK19? I remember seeing it done years ago, but my mind is not the same as it used to be.

[This message has been edited by Kojak (edited December 06, 2000).]

PEDDLER
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 148
posted December 06, 2000 06:54 PM
Kojak; PM me on the other and I will tell you.
Jim

BK19
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 97
posted December 06, 2000 08:58 PM UIN: 40696038
you take a socket like an inch or so or big enough to go over the weld on the pocket of the floor jack or you can just take the pocket off and put the socket where the pocket would go on the jack then you put it so the socket is under the center of the rearend NOT ON THE LIP WHERE THE COVERGOES in past it right behind the bottom center bolt you jack it up just until the left rear tire just starts to spin or break loose from the ground then you check the distance under the right rear tire for a tacky track you should be able to slide a pack of smokes under the right rear tire for a dry slick you would want twice that amount under the right rear tire i hope i explained it clear enough

Kojak
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 6
posted December 07, 2000 08:31 AM
Sure did, BK19. Thanks.

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