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vhost
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 65
posted January 22, 2003 04:43 PM
Jan. 22, 2003

Set-up software for race teams available

(Des Moines, IA) - Kyrox Software announced today that its flagship product, RaceSet DB, is now available to race teams.

RaceSet DB is a software program that will help race teams store and analyze race car set-up information and race results, and print those results through a variety of built-in reports. The program has been under development since February 2002.

Customers may now purchase the program online by visiting www.kyrox.com. The product will initially sell for $29.99, $10 off the regular price.

Kyrox Software wishes to thank all of the race teams who contributed to the development and testing of RaceSet DB, with special thanks to the following teams: Yager MotorSports (New York); Klinkowsky MotorSports (New York); Lou Sipolt Racing (Iowa); Ables Racing (Texas).

For more information, or to see screen shots of the product, visit www.kyrox.com.


racer2
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 166
posted January 22, 2003 06:36 PM
link doesnt work

Scoot
Dirt Freak

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posted January 22, 2003 08:19 PM
try this link www.kyrox.net it kicks you over to kyrox.com

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Scoot
Smith Racing Team
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vhost
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 65
posted January 23, 2003 08:55 AM
While I'm not aware of the site being down, please contact me if you'd like any information on the program. I can be reached at support@kyrox.com.



racer2
Dirt Maniac

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posted January 23, 2003 06:59 PM
thank you

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted January 23, 2003 07:10 PM UIN: 16262997
I have a better one.....software that HRS has built for lower end 95 and 98 lap tops for the track and the shop..... uses windows functions to reproduce setups in file formation so you can transfer. The database is in file format, which means, if you have a problem with power, you wont lose data. Since these guys came on, I will sell it for 13.50 a copy to your door. Very easy to use, has several of the tools on the forum. I use this software daily on the race car. You can reproduce setups with windows function and have all of the setups done in the shop before you hit the track...know where everything is. This software previously sold for 55.00 a copy. Even has a tutorial.

Let me know if you would like a copy.

PM me or email me at :webmaster@thedirtforum.com

jammin

vhost
Dirt Full Roller

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posted January 26, 2003 04:07 PM
What makes it better? Have you seen RaceSet DB?

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted January 26, 2003 05:11 PM UIN: 16262997
Let me rephrase this...

Does the programmer race?
Has he ever been in a car?

The reason I ask, is many of today's software builders are either just engineers or programmers. Now, if you can follow me here, how in the world can someone with no race experience write software that will applicable to our types of cars. I guess if you wanted to talk tech with my mother, you could. I don't know if you are gonna get the write answers or not, she hasn't ever raced either. That's where I CAN say that our software is better, it does what we want it to do for OUR race team. Satisfies our needs, so if you think that someone that has never sat in a car can build better....
I have seen this several times, even with Performance Trends software and several of the others. Engineer built, with little or no background in the sport. You guys know as well as I do, what works good on paper, doesn't always work on the dirt track. Same with applicable software. This little application that I built is very, very helpful in creating a track/setup database of information that is very, very valuable. This is our notes, can all fit on one floppy....
If you have programmed data base programs before, if there are power issues with and the database is left open, bad, bad things can happen with the information in the database. If you have a small laptop at the track and it is on the generator(hopefully not) or if the battery goes down during an addition, you have a problem, it's called a corrupt database. Now, in most cases you have to start over. This is another scenario that you will get ONLY from a racer...engineer/programmer won't think too much about this.

Just keep it in mind when selecting.

jammin

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vhost
Dirt Full Roller

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posted February 02, 2003 03:07 PM
You'll forgive me if I disagree.

I won't comment on your application because I haven't seen it and know nothing about it. All I can say is that our product is the result of a great deal of effort among more than a half dozen race teams. This is not the effort of a single individual/programmer with little or no experience in racing.

Frankly, as a programmer you should know that the quality of software is based on requirements gathering and writing specifications. This all happens before any code is written and creates a complete blueprint for the final product.

Besides, creating a database program to record set-up information is not a terribly complicated endeavor. Our system includes basic fields that many teams would record, and also has custom fields that users define according to their needs. This, I believe, makes our application extremely robust for a variety of users.

Finally, with today's technology, I would recommend the high speed performance of database files over any flat file application. The chances of permanently corrupting a database file are practically nil.

I apologize if my post creates any bad feelings, James. This was certainly not my intent. Best of luck with your application.

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted February 02, 2003 03:55 PM UIN: 16262997
No bad feelings here......
You are replicating something that has already been done. Being robust any field is not replication, but innovation. This is old news. We have had this program copyrighted for 4 years. I have seen many programs on the market(not yours), and honestly have not been impressed with hardly any of them. Personally, I built this program that I have for our team. It is there for purchase for anyone that wants to use it. Ours was not a money making scheme, but something we felt we needed to help keep up with our setups correctly. I previously stated that ours was better.....what I should have said is ours is better for me.. Because I built it to do exactly what I wanted it to do. Nothing more, nothing less. We built our program for small laptops. The reason for this was to allow a racer to use a small laptop(cheap) at the track to keep up with info. Start adding databases and all the bells and whistles...sometimes you can outdo yourself and create a much larger program than you thought it would be. Hardware expenses have deterorated during the last year or two which has made it easier for larger machines to be bought, but on the other hand, this will make it much cheaper to buy smaller laptops and get the same results.....why pay more for something that's gonna be in the dusty and dirty environment of dirt track racing? Doesn't make sense to me....but anyway. I hope everyone does well and continues to go forward in their racing.

jammin

widebody
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posted February 11, 2003 11:37 AM
Wow I cant believe this..

Having choices is what makes this America, in this case its a choice in software. To say that a choice in two products is bad, is ridiculous. Think about going to McDonalds and only getting the number 1 and Burger King never existed. Is he entitled to any less chance to sell his software than Performance Trends. Apparently enough people like Performance Trends version, they still sell it. That's where change originates in the first place. Where would we be if we only had one choice for many items. I'm sure your dissatisfaction with the Performance Trends product is what prompted you to build yours. Am I right or wrong. Maybe the price motivated you, you felt you could offer a superior product at a lower price. All of this is what leads to improved designs and new versions, design changes. If no one ever forced the hand of the competition where do you think we would be. Why are there so many chassis to chose from, they all do the same thing, or do they..

Now I understand you are biased to "your software" and that's as it should be. Id think you took no pride in your work if you felt any other way.

I wonder if I call Dirt works and tell them I'm making a similar chassis for a bit lower price if they would flinch and lower their prices by over 400%. If your software a good product and a value at 55.00 one week why is it now $13.50 the next. What about the poor guy who bought your software a month ago, I'm sure he feels like a chump. If your convinced you have a superior product why are you lowering your price?

Jammin the one thing that has made this site successful is that you generally remain unbiased and you don't force your opinions or views upon us. Most can surmise your stance on topics from your tone, but that's usually it. Your site offers the business classifieds section for just such a use and I believe he posted his add in the correct area. You than get on there and attack him. This guy has not spammed your members like some recent clowns that send unsolicited junk mail. He has not attacked your web forum or libeled you in any way.

I think you are wrong on this.

Why Do I care:

As an individual who contributed ideas and tested RaceSet, I can form an opinion of the product. The package has some nice features! There was well over 8 months of development on screen layout. As a racer I felt certain items were a must have. Scalability, its searching ability, large general notes areas, its easy to use input screens and its report generating ability among other things. I know cost was a driving factor in its development from the very beginning. I didn't just help develop it for a free copy, I'm actually setting up to use it this next season. And like any good software package in its infancy, it may need some changes made along the way.

Widebody
Yager Motorsports

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted February 11, 2003 12:02 PM UIN: 16262997
Naw, widebody.....I didn't mean it to sound that way.....I will from time to time question products, just as you do when purchasing or buying a product that you want to help your racing. If you ask many of these businesses on here, I will contact them and find out about the product just to be up-to-date on the product itself. This product that this person was selling was just tested. Personally, I don't have our software listed on our site to sell, as I stated, I built it for our team, it is available if wanted. But what you don't realize, is that half of the products on this software are now listed in the tool box as FREE online programs for you to use. This is why I went down on the price. If you take a look at our site, you will find that this specific software is listed nowhere to be sold.(www.hrsapplications.com) We did this for you guys. Testing and questioning products, technical issues and tasks are what this site is all about. I wasn't pressing for anyone to buy our sofware, I was pressing to find out why a program is that expensive. Now, personally guys, I shouldnt even have to tell you my goal in this. But since I have been questioned on it, I will tell you all of this. Since, my background is in programming, I do know a bit about it, not everything, but I have a working knowledge of this. I am restoring a database as we speak on a lan. Simply from corruption. I don't want to see anyone lose information, do you? I am sorry that you feel that I was wrong in the way I did this, and maybe I should have done it a little differently, but I hope you realize it was for the right reason.

jammin

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