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MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted July 15, 2002 04:20 PM
I'M RUNNING 2- 195/65's (14") ON L/R & R/R,, THE LEFT FRONT I RUN I SMALL 13" AND R/F A 190/75/14. AS I NOTED ON THE TIRE PRESSURE QUESTION I RUN 10lbs-lf // 12lbs lr /13lbs rr
15lbs rf. BUT I'VE NOTICED SOME GUYS RUN THERE SMALLEST TIRE ON THE LEFT REAR VS. LEFT FNT AS I DO? AND SOME HAVE TOLD ME TO RUN TWO 13" WHELLS ON THE LEFT SIDE. NOW I GET MY TIRES D.O.T. AT A SALVAGE YARD "PICK OF THE LITTER $5.00 ea."
THE BOTTOM LINE I'M TRYING TO GET THE BEST GRAB ON THE 1/4 MILE BANKED TRACK I RUN ON.
ALL THE HELP ANYONE CAN OFFER WOULD HELP.
THX

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted July 16, 2002 05:24 AM
I run a track that is just short of 1/2 mile. I am new but I got 215/70/14 on the Left Rear, 205/60/ 14 on the Right Rear, and 205/60/14 on both fronts. dont take my word as I am new.. but the other pintos I race with run the same tire sizes. I have also been told that higher tire pressure can compensate for less power. Pressures... Dry track i run around 18 in both fronts and 15 LR and 13 RR give or take 1 pound. Also using "used" tires is good to figure out what set up you are best with. But once you figure out your perfect setup, you should go with new tires. I run "used" tires also, for now.

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted July 16, 2002 10:07 AM
THX FOR THE TIP, I'LL TRY IT THIS SAT. NIGHT.
I BEEN RUNNING THE LOW PRESURE AND 13" ON THE LEFT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD IT HELPS W/ THE GRAB IN THE TURN'S. BUT ALSO I WAS TOLD TO TRY A HEAVY DUTY STRUT OR 6 CLY COIL SPRING ON THE RIGHT REAR TOP GIVE ME MORE STABILITY IN THE TURN-- SO I'M GOING TO ALSO TRY THAT THIS WEEK.
AS I SAID I'M NEW AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO WIN THIS YR, JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME AND TRYING TO LEARN ALL I CAN.
LET ME RUN 2 MORE THINGS BY MY FELLOW "DIRT-RACERS"??????????????????????????
I HEARD SOME GUY LAST SAT ASKING ABOUT THE REAR IN BEING LOCKED???[IMG] SO I GO HOME JACK UP THE CAR AND DO THE SPIN--SURE ENOUGH OPPOSITE SPIN (NOT LOCKED) HOW DO I LOCK IT AND HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE?
THE LAST THING ELECTRIC FAN ON THE RADIATOR VS. THE BELT FAN I RUN NOW I MUCH WILL IT GIVE ME.
AND ONE MORE THING (SORRY I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ALL THE TIPS I CAN GET) I HAD MY HEAD SHAVED .145 SHOULD I LOWER THE GAP IN MY PLUGS FROM .44 THEY ARE AT NOW. (FYI- MY TIMING IS ADVANCED ABOUT 30 RIGHT NOW)
THX TO ALL FOR ANY ADVICE YOU CAN GIVE
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[This message has been edited by MINI2.3DIRTRACER (edited July 16, 2002).]

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted July 16, 2002 06:04 PM
what kind of car do you have? My rear end is just welded. you can probaly take it to a local shop and have them weld it for you. I dont know squat about rear ends but i know mine is welded. as is the others i race with. I am new also, i have a total of 5 nights of racing under my belt, and before that i was just a guy in the stands every friday night. yeah friday, for some reason my track likes to race on fridays instead of saturdays.

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted July 16, 2002 06:07 PM
also i made the mistake of running a higher pressure on a wet wet track... DONT DO IT... man the crowd had a blast laughing at me, i could hear them over my car and through my helmet laughing. well not really i heard them on the video my wife made (she was laughing too)

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted July 17, 2002 09:12 AM
I'M RUNNING A FORD (MID 80's) STANG 2.3
AS FOR THE REAR END THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD TOO--WELD IT W/ A NICKOLE ROD??
ANYWAY I HAVE A BUDDY WHO WELDS, I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM DO IT--HOPEFULLY BY SAT. NIGHT.
TAKE CARE AND HAVE A GOOD RUN FRIDAY, LET ME KNOW HOW YOU DO.

KSGerry
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 125
posted July 18, 2002 09:18 AM
You didn't mention doing this step so I am going point out that what is critical is the outside circumference of the tire after it is mounted on a wheel and inflated to the desired pressure. This measurement will change if you mount a tire on a wider or narrower wheel. Generally, a car with a good working chassis and suspension will have the circumference on the front tires the same. Perhaps a little smaller on the LF. The rear tires can be adjusted according to spacing (in or out) and to circumference (stagger or roll-out)according to track conditions...dry-slick, wet and tacky or tacky due to track taking rubber. Different brands...radial, non-radial, compound, tread design will give your car different handling characteristics. A $5.00 tire will give you $5.00 results. Just my nickel's worth of opinion. Regards, Gerry

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shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted July 18, 2002 03:13 PM
Sounds like KSGerry is the man to talk to. I am new and learning just like you, mini2.3dirtracer. So please get everything I say confirmed before trusting my total word on it.

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KWTracer
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 233
posted July 19, 2002 07:16 AM
Gerry is right, all these profile ratios dont mean much. Two of the same size tires will have a different runout. Heck when we used to run a spec tire we would inflate some set them in the sun all week to get and inch or so of stagger.. Whats important is circumference. The difference in circumference will give you stagger. Rear stagger will not work untill you lock that rear end. Go ahead and weld it up. The front tires should be pretty much the same in cirfumerence. Stagger make no difference on the front as the two wheel turn independently. The differences in circumference here just effets things like wedge, ride height, percentages, ect.

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted July 29, 2002 09:20 AM
THX FOR THE HELP
I'VE ALREADY HAD THE REAR END WELDED ( IT'S LIKE NIGHT AND DAY) NOW I'M GOING TO WORK THEM TIRES--THANKS AGAIN--ALL THE ADVICE YOU CAN OFFER IS VERY VERY WELCOMED.

wildcat4257
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 108
posted August 02, 2002 06:27 AM
ONE MORE THING GUYS. WHEN YOU CHANGE THINGS ON THE CAR DO THEM ONE AT A TIME AND KEEP A RECORD OF IT.(NOTEBOOK) IF YOU DO MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME YOU WON'T KNOW WHICH CHANGE AFFECTED THE CHASSIS IN WHICH WAY.
WILDCAT

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

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posted August 05, 2002 09:10 AM
WELL I GOT THE OLD MEASURING TAPE OUT LAST SAT AND WAS GOING TO WORK THEM TIRES BUT I HAD A BLOWN HEAD GASKET AND 4 HRS TELL RACE TIME---SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH.BUT I DID GET IT DONE GOT TO THE TRACK--PLAYED WITH THE TIMING A LIL. RAN THE HOT LAPS AND ALL WAS GOOD------
THEN COME TIME FOR THE Q. HEATS BY THE 5TH LAP OF 8 MY CLUTCH WAS SLIPING BAD IN THE TURNS, ON THE 7TH LAP IT WAS GONE----I WAS TRAILER BOUND, SO I'VE GOT MY WORK CUT OUT THIS WEEK. A FEW GUYS AT THE TRACK SAID WHY I WAS IN THERE I MIGHT AS WELL GET MY FLY WHEEL SHAVED DOWN??????????????? ANY ADVICE OUT THERE ON THAT AND ANY THING ELSE I CAN DO WHY I HAVE THE TRANSMISSION PULLED???????
THX IN ADVANCE
DIRT2.3RACER

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted August 08, 2002 07:03 PM
I heard about shaving the flywheel also. I heard that it will help your engine gt up to speed by reducing rotating weight (or something like that). But I also heard that it is kind of dangerous also, where it can come apart and do some bodily injury. But I don't know that is just what I heard. Look further into it.

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MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 09, 2002 10:30 AM
SHADOZA--THX
I KNOW A FEW DRIVERS AT THE TRACK RUNNING SHAVED FLY WHEELS, BUT AS FOR ME I'M RUNNING AGAINST THE CLOCK (BUSY WORK WEEK) JUST GOT THE CLUTCH OUT LAST NIGHT, NO TIME TO SHAVE THE FLYWHEEL---I'M JUST GOING TO GET THE NEW CLUTCH IN AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER FOR SAT RACING. HOPE IT HOLDS TOGETHER-- I'VE FINISHED ONE FULL PROGRAM IN THE LAST 5 WEEKS. AT THE END OF THE SEASON THE WHOLE ENGINE IS COMING OUT AND I'M GOING TO GET IT MORE COMPETITIVE FOR SEASON # TWO.
I'M LEARNING AS I GO
THANKS

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 09, 2002 10:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by KSGerry:
You didn't mention doing this step so I am going point out that what is critical is the outside circumference of the tire after it is mounted on a wheel and inflated to the desired pressure. This measurement will change if you mount a tire on a wider or narrower wheel. Generally, a car with a good working chassis and suspension will have the circumference on the front tires the same. Perhaps a little smaller on the LF. The rear tires can be adjusted according to spacing (in or out) and to circumference (stagger or roll-out)according to track conditions...dry-slick, wet and tacky or tacky due to track taking rubber. Different brands...radial, non-radial, compound, tread design will give your car different handling characteristics. A $5.00 tire will give you $5.00 results. Just my nickel's worth of opinion. Regards, Gerry


HEY KSGERRY
THX FOR THE ADVICE ON TIRE CIRCUMFERENCES, HAD A QUESTION-- FOR THE DIFFERENT TRACK CONDITIONS WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND RUNNING ON THE TIRE CIRCUM.? ALSO I'VE NOTICED ONE OTHER THING AT THE TRACK-- SOME CARS ARE USING A VERY HD SHOCK OR COIL SPRING IN THE RIGHT REAR ( THAT CNR IS LIKE 3-4 INCH's HIGHER THEN THE REST OF THERE CAR??? GOOD IDEA ?? AND WHY??? THX IN ADVANCE?? GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND

KSGerry
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 125
posted August 09, 2002 04:52 PM
More stagger or difference of circumference loosens the car. Same with spacing the wheels away from the car. Less stagger and less spacing tightens it. A HD shock with a coil lifts the RR of the car and transfers weight to the left side. May cause a push as it won't allow the right side to come down in the corners. I like to keep the car as low to the ground (ride height) and use soft springs and shocks. Too soft will cause the car to go loose in the corners. A dirt track is ever-changing, so you must make adjustments to keep up. Driver's preference dictates whether you want a loose or tight handling car too.

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gotmilk
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 10, 2002 09:39 AM
On the tire subject we run imca modified
pull-offs.yes u will lose some power but u
will make up because u can FLY through the
corners

SKULLHULL
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 10, 2002 02:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MINI2.3DIRTRACER:
THX FOR THE TIP, I'LL TRY IT THIS SAT. NIGHT.
I BEEN RUNNING THE LOW PRESURE AND 13" ON THE LEFT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD IT HELPS W/ THE GRAB IN THE TURN'S. BUT ALSO I WAS TOLD TO TRY A HEAVY DUTY STRUT OR 6 CLY COIL SPRING ON THE RIGHT REAR TOP GIVE ME MORE STABILITY IN THE TURN-- SO I'M GOING TO ALSO TRY THAT THIS WEEK.
AS I SAID I'M NEW AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO WIN THIS YR, JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME AND TRYING TO LEARN ALL I CAN.
LET ME RUN 2 MORE THINGS BY MY FELLOW "DIRT-RACERS"??????????????????????????
I HEARD SOME GUY LAST SAT ASKING ABOUT THE REAR IN BEING LOCKED???[IMG] SO I GO HOME JACK UP THE CAR AND DO THE SPIN--SURE ENOUGH OPPOSITE SPIN (NOT LOCKED) HOW DO I LOCK IT AND HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE?
THE LAST THING ELECTRIC FAN ON THE RADIATOR VS. THE BELT FAN I RUN NOW I MUCH WILL IT GIVE ME.
AND ONE MORE THING (SORRY I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ALL THE TIPS I CAN GET) I HAD MY HEAD SHAVED .145 SHOULD I LOWER THE GAP IN MY PLUGS FROM .44 THEY ARE AT NOW. (FYI- MY TIMING IS ADVANCED ABOUT 30 RIGHT NOW)
THX TO ALL FOR ANY ADVICE YOU CAN GIVE
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[This message has been edited by MINI2.3DIRTRACER (edited July 16, 2002).]


go to your local race dealer ther is a part you can buy to lock without welding this prevents breaking. on dirt this will help get the bite of the corner but could make car loose in exit, and entry so you will have to move lead around. try to put 40 to 70 pound right behind driver seat this keep the weight on L. rear and keps car weight centered. when you find the set you like to drive you should be able to drive car fast throu corner. good luck

ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 12, 2002 09:33 AM
THe smallest tire one your car shoudl be on the left rear, the biggest on the right rear, the you should run atwo more even sized tires on the front, with about -2 or 3 in camber on the right front, just remember like a funnel, thats how it rolls, also remember if your rear end isn't locked, then your stagger only effects your car for about what you have, if you run 6 inches of stagger it will only run like 3. on the fly wheel, i wouldn't waste my time on or money having the fly wheel shaved, if you want to cut you flywheel weight, they made two flywheels for the 2300, a big fat heavy one and then a much thinner and lighter one, they are not hard to find, you just have tolook alittle,

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 12, 2002 11:11 AM
THX TO ALL- THIS IS GREAT, YOUR TIPS AND ADVICE COME IN HANDY --VERY MUCH SOOOOOOOO!!!!
I KNOW I STARTED THIS TOPIC ON TIRES AND HAVE KINDA WENT ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH IT--SORRY BUT HERE I GO AGAIN......[IMG]http://www.thedirtforum.com/ubb/smilies/cwm1.gif
[/IMG] AFTER THE WINTER NATIONALS I PLAN TO PULL MY ENGINE AND BUILD MY FIRST "RE-BUILD"
CAN ANYONE OFFER SOME ADVICE TO ANY SITES I CAN GO TO FOR TIPS AND PARTS????
ALL THE INPUT WILL BE A GREAT HELP....... I'M THINKING ABOUT 250 CHEVY RODS, KB PISTONS, RACING CAM ETC... LOOKING TO SPEND LESS TIME IN THE REAR NEXT SEASON--- SOME OF THESE MINI STOCKS FLY LIKE ROCKETS--I'VE BEEN TOLD IT WAS THE ENGINE BUILD UP i.e. THE CHEVY RODS OR EVEN 2500 VS 2300 ENGINES. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MORE THEN$1000--- CAN ANYONE STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
SORRY FOR THE LONG WRITE UP.....
THX AGAIN

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted August 12, 2002 12:09 PM
man i feel like I am advertising. I like the stuff at www.racerwalsh.com they also have a total run around about the 2300 engine if you go through the site map... actually you have to go through the site map to see all the parts also. I know what you mean about the other cars flying like rockets too. Do they enforce the rules at your track? They dont at my track, some of the guys have over 5000 dollars in their engines. roller cams, aftermarket intakes, stroker cranks... all kinds of stuff. It is going to cost me more to make my pinto a winner than it would be to buy an already winning street or super stock.

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ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 12, 2002 03:43 PM
Speedway motors, www.speedwaymotors.com, the sell alot of parts for the ford 2300, including a 2.5 stroker kit, adjustable cam gears, crank pulleys, headers, ect.

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 13, 2002 10:24 AM
THX MINI STOCK #50 & SHADOZA
AS FOR YOUR QUESTION, NO MY TRACK DOES NOT ENFORCE THEIR RULES, THE SCALES ARE BROKE (THUS MANY CARS OUR UNDER MIN WEIGHT) AND ONCE IN AWHILE THEY WILL LOOK UNDER THE HOOD ON THE TOP 5 CARS JUST TO ENSURE THERE IS NO BLATENT RULE BREAKERS i.e. HEADERS OR 4 BRL CARBS BUT THAT IS ABOUT IT, HEY I WILL CHECK OUT THE SITES YOU SENT ME- KEEP THE TIPS COMING AND THANKS ALOT.

ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 13, 2002 11:44 AM
ford racing also sales a 2.5 stroker kit for the 2.3 liter i beleive it runs about 450 bucks out of there.not to expensive and its easy horse power

SKULLHULL
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 13, 2002 07:45 PM
rember airflow = horsepower.....
when you build your moter porting and compresion is the cheapest hp. you will ever get. shave head and port get heavy valve springs and small cam. get holly 350 carb and you will have more power than u can handle.

My bro runing stock 2300 he is 3rd in points and dont even have any of this. What he has is a car tha is the best set at our track. Rember airflow = H.P. good luck

check with your rules to see how far you can go

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SKULLHULL

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 14, 2002 09:43 AM
THX AGAIN
AIRFLOW?? CAN YOU TELL ME A LIL MORE ABOUT PORTING??? I'VE ALREADY HAD MY HEAD SHAVED .145 DO TO A DIMPLE I HAD IN IT. BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE PORTING? ALSO I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND A RANGER EXHAUST MANIFOLD I'M TOLD THAT WILL ALSO HELP??????
THX AGAIN

ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 14, 2002 10:07 AM
When you port a head you are making the intake and exaust ports bigger, most of the time they are ported to mach the size of the opening in the gasket, why out a manifold on it, are you not allowed to run headers? and on lost thing, all this stuff does helps and gives you al ittle extra horse power, but there is no substitue for cubic inches, boring and strokeing it will give you the biggest horse power boost, then next i would recommend an adjustable cam gear, by retarding the cam you will get tons more top end depending on how many degrees, and advancing the cam will give a better bottom end. personaly i see no point in wrapping all that money up in the head, i am curently 2nd in points and run a stock end except for the header and cam gear.

SKULLHULL
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 14, 2002 01:55 PM
Airflow the better the airflow is the faster to power. Yes cubic inches is good for hp it wont help if you dont have propper airflow start at the carb how much air will pass through? then go to intake how much air will pass? then open the intake ports to match the intake and intake gasket .(only cut out on edge get ride of sharp edges dont cut up inside the head ) then the same for your header. You will need some back pressure so run 8 to 10 inches of 2 1/2 pipe off the end of your header pipe ( if you can run header) if you cant run header use ranger stock it is a factory header this will help. dont restrict header too much it will hurt power!
think how gas firs the best air mixture and compression how fast does the air get in and out of cylender ......airflow...... the more you have the better the power .if you bore the block you need more air and gass. dont go all out on bottem end the less you do the less chance of cracking the block ....good luck


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wildcat4257
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 108
posted August 20, 2002 09:04 PM
for botom halves- go with race engineering out of florida. i am on my second season on a 2500 and you can still see the cross-hatch on the cylinder walls. they do great work. www.raceeng.com i think.
WILDCAT

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 21, 2002 09:47 AM
HEY THANKS ALOT-YOU ALL ARE GIVING SOME GREAT ADVICE--IT HELPS ALOT, THIS IS MY 1ST YEAR, AND PRIOR TO THIS THE MOST I EVER DID WAS CHANGE STARTER, ALTERNATORS, etc., THE 2.3 IS GREAT ENGINE TO LEARN ON.
GOTA ANOTHER QUESTION OR 20--- AS FOR THIS AIR FLOW, DO I JUST TAKE THE HEAD TO THE MACHINE SHOP FOR THIS PORTING?? DOES IT COST MUCH??? AND NO WE CAN NOT RUN HEADERS SO I'LL GO TO THE SALVAGE YARD AND P/U A RANGER (YEAR???) EXH. MANIFOLD.. HOW ABOUT THIS ADJUSTABLE CAM GEAR?? I'M I NOT GETTING THE SAME EFFECT BY ADJUSTING THE TIMING AT THE DISTRIBUTOR??? ONE LAST QUESTION I'M RUNNING A HOLLY 355 CARB-- WHAT'S THE BEST SET UP ON IT ie JET'S, FLOAT, PORT VALVE????
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 21, 2002 10:47 AM
if you have your new manifold gaskets, you can port the head yourself, just take and put the gasket on the head trace the gaskets holes around you ports and grind them out to the lines

SKULLHULL
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 21, 2002 01:49 PM
as for porting should cost aprox.$100 you should have intake checked for gasket match.
as for exh. have wrecking yard look up they can match to year of 2.3
carb setting should be done by cid and airflow prob need more fuel.
also put the 1 inch spacer under carb this helps with air/fuel mixt.
cam gear the way to go this changes the cam timing not the fire timing builds more top end power this is were u need it.

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sandhillbandit
Dirt Roller

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posted August 21, 2002 09:26 PM
hey i have been running modified mini stock for a while but i started out running mini stock. i have always ran 15 inch rims on my car. i tried running 14's but couldnt ever stop spinning if u are asking why i run 15's. i run a 205/60 r15 on the LF, a 255/60 r15 on the RF, and my tires on the rear are 225/60 r15. maybe this can help you out the next time u run but its like i have always said u have to try things for your self b/c no one's driving style is ever the same but anyways good luck on the clay man.


MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 22, 2002 07:26 AM
ONCE AGAIN YOU GUY'S ARE AWESOME, I'M GOING TO TRY AND GET THE CAM GEAR BY SAT AND I'LL TRY THE 15" WHEELS, I'LL TO WORK ON THE PORTING (NEVER ENOUGH TIME). I'M RUNNING 27 IN POINTS OUT OF 54, LIKE TO FINISH MY FIRST SEASON IN TOP 25. THEN RE-BUILD THAT ENGINE AND SHOOT FOR TOP 10 NEXT YEAR, THANKS FOR THE TIPS AND KEEP THEM COMING.

ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 22, 2002 10:09 AM
just remember, the more things you try all at once the harder it is to tell whats really haelping your car, so only try one thing at a time

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 27, 2002 09:18 AM
((THIS RESPONSE WAS FOR THE WHELL QUESTION(COULD NOT POST UNDER THAT TOPIC??)-THE LATER QUESTIONS WAS OPEN TO ALL WITH ADVICE))

AS FOR THE FORD WHEEL MY LOCAL JUNK YARD HAS A MOUNTAIN OF THE 14" STEEL WHEELS (RIM'S) FOR $5 EA. HE ALSO HAS A FEW 13" (THAT'S WHAT I RUN ON MY FRONT LEFT.) NOW FOR $20 EA
(THIS RESPONSE WAS TO SAND HILL
YOU CAN GET THE 15" "WHEEL" OF THE LATER MODEL MUSTANG (92' --93') THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING READY TO CHANGE TO.
HERE'S A SIDE QUESTION HOW MANY OF YOU RUN TUBE'S IN YOUR TIRE'S--ANY PRO'S AND CON'S??? I BLEW OUT MY FNT RIGHT TIRE SAT NIGHT IN THE Q-HEAT, AND THE B-MAIN---BOY WAS I HOT AFTER SPENDING ALL DAY PUTTING ANOTHER CLUTCH IN.
THX

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 27, 2002 09:23 AM
#50, I TRIED THAT 13"(SMALLEST TIRE) ON THE LEFT REAR VS LEFT FRONT, FOR SOME REASON IT DID NOT WORK FOR ME , IWAS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE TURNS. DON'T KNOW WHY?? I'VE SEEN DRIVER'S GO WITH SMALLEST IN THE FRONT AND SOME IN THE REAR?? I THINK I'LL STICK WITH THE FRONT--BUT THX.
quote:
Originally posted by ministock#50:
THe smallest tire one your car shoudl be on the left rear, the biggest on the right rear, the you should run atwo more even sized tires on the front, with about -2 or 3 in camber on the right front, just remember like a funnel, thats how it rolls, also remember if your rear end isn't locked, then your stagger only effects your car for about what you have, if you run 6 inches of stagger it will only run like 3. on the fly wheel, i wouldn't waste my time on or money having the fly wheel shaved, if you want to cut you flywheel weight, they made two flywheels for the 2300, a big fat heavy one and then a much thinner and lighter one, they are not hard to find, you just have tolook alittle,


ministock#50
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted August 27, 2002 10:03 AM
DO you have a locked or unlocked rear end? that makes a huge diffence, and how much stagger did you have total in the rear end??

And as for sa far as tubes go, we ran them for a while and had more problems than not, when you go into the corners, the tube rolles and rips the valve stem off, and if you roll the tire over to far in theconer they also pinch the tubes making for another flat. howmuch air where you running in your right front, you may need to run more air adjust your camber some.

MrEd29
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 8
posted August 27, 2002 05:17 PM
hey for wheels we run all 13 inch keep the turning weight as low as possibl we run 6x13 on the left side and 7 x13 on the right on the left front we run 195 60s and left rear 205 60s rt ft 205 60s and rt rear 205 6os and as far as air pressure we run 14 lf ft 16 lt rear 18 rt fr 21 rt rear we rolled a tire off the right rear running 15 lbs , as far as the clutch goes run a 1.9 escort there cheap at the junk yard you have to run a 60s chevy truck throw out bearing with this combo it weighs 18lbs where the mustang weighs 22lbs, and if you can turn it down definetly do this will feel like you doubled your horse power some guys ru 11 lb flywheel pressure plate and clutch assembly. also hull out every thing you can weight wise on the car especially in the front of the car. after market nose weighs 7lbs versus 14 lb stock we run the late model bumper that goes with it very strong but light weight, on the engine go ultra light and cut the crank down 6lbs and knife edge it also ,

shadoza
Dirt Forum Racer

Total posts: 92
posted August 28, 2002 03:09 AM
You have 54 in your class??? Dangggggggg!!! Where do you race at? We are lucky if we get 8 of our class to show up on a race night here in the west texas town of El Paso.

buckseight
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 106
posted August 28, 2002 03:49 PM
hey we run a half mile dirt track in florida that pulls in about 26 28 every sat nite

buckseight
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 106
posted August 28, 2002 03:54 PM
thats alot of iron to go through starting in the rear with only 20 laps or 15 min. which ever comes first.

[This message has been edited by jammin (edited August 29, 2002).]

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted August 28, 2002 04:31 PM UIN: 16262997
You are making me wonder about ya 8.

jammin

SKULLHULL
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted August 28, 2002 09:36 PM
**** thats a q we could do without besides that is what my wife is for (she keeps me out of trouble lol) you should all come to so. ORE speedway we have 60 + mini stock here, on a slow night we may only have 40 show up. we all have fun together and all out of town cars are welcome .

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buckseight
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 106
posted August 29, 2002 03:41 AM
hey now wait a min. guys i dont like the sounds of this, i didnt do that all myself i just clicked on that little smily face dude and thats what i got he. he. thats my story and im stickin to it

but anyway 60 + cars ahh the old days when you actually had to qualify to get into a feature race

MINI2.3DIRTRACER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted August 30, 2002 10:05 AM
THX I'M LEARNING MORE EACH DAY AT THIS SITE. AS FOR MY REAR END I DID HAVE IT LOCKED (WELDED) BUT THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS CHANGING MY CLUTCH I NOTICED MY WHEELS WERE TURNING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION AGAIN WHEN I TURNED THE DRIVE SHAFT??? BROKE THE WELD????
AS FOR THE LITTER CLUTCH WISH I NEW THAT LAST SAT, I'LL TRY TO GO LIGHTER ON THE FLYWHEEL/CLUTCH BUT PROBALLY NOT TELL END OF SEASON-ONLY HAVE SIX MORE RACES AND THAT'S A PRETTY TIME CONSUMING JOB.
NOW FOR THIS STAGGER? I'M SORRY BUT PLEASE RUN THIS BYE ME AGAIN, IS THERE A SPACER THAT GOES BETWEEN THE WHEEL?? THIS PROBALLY SOUNDS LIKE A DUMB QUESTION --BUT I'M LEARNING HERE..
THE TIRE PRESSURE I BEEN RUNING IS (DRY SLICK) L-F 10, L-R 12, R-R 14 R-F 15TO 18. I GUESS I NEED TO ADD 5LBS TO EACH? I KNOW WORKING THESE TIRES IS HALF THE BATTLE, I SEE SO MANY DRIVERS PUTTING ALOT OF TIME IN THE "RIGHT" TIRE CONFIGURATION...
WE RUN 54 MINISTOCK (LAWTON OK SPEEDWAY)USALLY ABOUT 48 SHOW UP EACH WEEK, WE RUN 4 Q-HEATS WITH ABOUT 12CARS IN EACH(6LAPS) TOP 5 ADVACE TO A FEATURE(15 LAPS) ALL OTHERS GO TO THE "B"(8LAPS) TOP 2 ADVANCE. THAT PUTS ABOUT 22 CARS IN THE "A" IT'S LIKE AN L.A. TRAFFIC JAM ON THAT 1/4 MILE TRACK AND THERE'S ALLWAYS A PILE UP, BUT YOU CAN TELL WHO HAS ALL THE POWER 4 OR 5 CARS ARE LIKE ROCKETS IF YOU DID NOT KNOW ANYBETTER YOU WOULD THINK THEY ARE RUNNING V-8's.
WHILE THAT'S IT FOR NOW__SORRY IT'S SO LONG__ BUT I'M TRING TO SUCK UP ALL THIS KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE TO OFFER.
THX....

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