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techmaster35
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 259
posted January 10, 2002 03:17 PM
WHAT SHOULD IT COST TO BUILD A STOCK OR MODIFIED 4 CYL. WHAT SHOULD THE GENERAL RULES OF THE CLASS BE.

Oldman77
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted January 10, 2002 06:23 PM
I say price is predominatley determined by two factors.

1 - what you can afford without straving yourself and your kids

2 - What you can hide from your wife. ha ha ha.

I don't like to spend more than I have to of course but I would say around $2,500 - $3,000 for a stock 4cyl. This includes the buying the car. This should be attainable for most who want to race and still have resources to keep the thing going.

Stock means stock and modified is everything else. Run it like it came from the factory. Same tolerances as the factory stuff. I.E. compression ratios, valve cuts, deck heights, cam specs , etc.... If the factory built it then you can run it.

My two rusty pennies


Oldman77

KSGerry
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 125
posted January 11, 2002 08:52 AM
You may want to check out the Four Cylinder Racing Alliance. Jammin is kind enough to boost their website and mission proposal to have a nationwide 4 cylinder race class in various forms...stock, modified stock, and a "pro-4" modified style.
It also depends on the fans you wish to have attend. A bone-stock class is popular to race on it's own night as it will pay out a little money and you can keep the admittance cost cheap for the fans. Just don't "load up" and run a bunch of classes on a race night where the show lasts until midnight or later. Fans want a fast moving show that is over in 3 or less hours...hot laps to end of feature. I have "spec" engine and "race" engine choices for you. Send me a PM if you are interested. Good luck with your programs. Starting a new track is going to be an exciting challenge! Best regards...
Gerry at Kansas Racing Products.

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KSGerry

Oldman77
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 40
posted January 11, 2002 03:38 PM
I have never understood why tracks around here will not run on a Sunday afternoon. It would save the cost of lighting the track and I don't see that there is any nosie ordinance that would keep them from doing it.

I would be broke up north where some tracks run Friday night, Sat night and Sunday.

Just a thought


KSGerry
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 125
posted January 11, 2002 08:03 PM
Yes...If other sports are played on Sunday, why not racing on Sunday afternoon? Also, I have always thought that during the heat of Summer, that racing should be done on Saturday morning when it is somewhat cooler. Of course, that would also allow some racers the opportunity to compete at one track in the a.m. and travel to another track to race Saturday night. My apologys for shifting the topic starter about mini-stocks.

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KSGerry

Flatlander
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 310
posted January 11, 2002 10:39 PM
the problem is usaully dry slick dry slicker and dry slickest hard to hold moisture in a track in the southern heat

techmaster35
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 259
posted January 11, 2002 11:46 PM
lets see if we can get a little farther off the topic you guys. HA HA HA!!!

hoosierdaddy
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 58
posted January 12, 2002 07:33 PM
there are a few tracks around oklahoma and missouri that run on sundays

wildcat4257
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 108
posted January 17, 2002 06:12 AM
ABOUT THE PRICE. DON'T ASK, IT WILL SCARE YOU.

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dirttracker98
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 139
posted January 18, 2002 10:37 AM
Every afternoon race I ever ran in turned out to be real"dusty"by feature time,they just could'nt keep the track moist with the "sun beatin'down and the cars goin'around",of course that don't happen on blacktop,the corners just get kinda'washboardy,espically in 2 and 4 where you was back on the hammer again!!

wildcat4257
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 108
posted January 21, 2002 05:13 AM
cheaper to buy a good used one.
will probably have a modified 4 for sale after this season. darn good car. just ask awesome4.

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dirttracker98
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 139
posted January 21, 2002 06:06 PM
You can buy the cast pistons & rings,new or recon rods,gaskets,oil pump,about all the stuff you need to build the motor for less than $350.00,what ever kind of deal you can get on any machine work needed{if you can't do it yourself},plus a good valve job,and you put it togather,you should have around $550.00 invested,or you can always go the junk-yard route and buy a running engine for 1 to 2 hundred dollars and run 'em till they blow,then go back to the junk yard and buy another drop it in & go racin'again!! As for a mod4 engine,durability & speed costs,how fast ya'wantta go,how deep is your pockets and how fat is your wallet & bank account

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dirttracker98
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 139
posted January 21, 2002 06:34 PM
Rules for a stock4,should be just that,stock only,rods,pistons,cranks,no HIperformance aftermarket or racing components, maximum of.010 overbore,no milling of head other than clean-up,if the head needs more than.010 or.020,to be cleaned up it ain't legal,Put a tight claim rule on the engine,the best way to do that is go to a a couple of parts houses in your area and get the price of a rebuild kit from them and set your claim in accordence with the price of the parts.And the main thing is YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE THE RULES FOR EVERY ONE RACING UNDER THOSE RULES AND DON'T GIVE YOUR BUDDY,COUSIN,BROTHER-IN-LAW,OR GIRLFRIEND NO SLACK EITHER!!!!

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