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sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted March 23, 2002 03:47 PM
Here is a link to a photo of an Eagle cast crank that was brought into my shop today . This is a classic picture !! The guy who brought it in had been using it for 1 race season . He wanted to know if I could tell him what happened ! LMAO You should see what's left of the SVO block !! This crank was in a Mustang drag car . I told this guy about a year ago when he wanted me to build this engine , to invest in a good crank or he would be running over his Eagle crank , and his rod's ! He didn't listen , and I didn't build it . The moral of the story is ........... Chinese stuff break's !

I think you can copy and paste this link in your address bar , hit enter , and it should go right to the picture .

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/sdhnc29/vwp?.dir=/Eagle+Crank&.dnm=Eagle+Crank.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/sdhnc29/lst%3f%26.dir=/Eagle%2bCrank%26.src=b c%26.view=l

Pigpen
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 61
posted March 27, 2002 01:32 AM
I am curious what affordable crank you would recomend for a sbc...

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted March 27, 2002 12:06 PM
I'd recommend using the Callies Dragon Slayer crank . It is a very good piece , and American made ! Cola also makes an affordable crank that is nice

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
(828)286-0780

#28
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 154
posted March 28, 2002 12:02 AM
Do you think the Eagle rods are junk also? What brands do you recommend on rods?

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted March 28, 2002 01:32 PM
This will probably result in a bunch of comments that speak about how good Eagle rod's are , but yes I think they are 100% junk . I have never had a set of Eagle rods brought into my shop that did not have at least one cracked rod in a set that had been run . This includes street engines ! I have also only ever seen one or two set's that are new and are within tolerance on the big end or the small end . The machine work on these rod's is terrible ! Just look at all of the belt sanding marks on these rods . Just like everything else that is made in China , you have inferior craftsmanship and inferior metal . I realize that there are claims that they are machined in the US . But if this is in fact true , then have a bunch fast food patty flipper's doing there machine work .

It's always been my opinion to spend your money on thing's that will last . It might cost a little more at first , but it will be much cheaper than driving over your crank and rotating assembly .

As for a budget rod . I like the Crower Sportsman rod . I have never seen a broken or cracked one , the machine work is precision , and they are made in the US using US material .

Hope I didn't anger anyone with my opinion of Eagle product's , but what I said is what I know and have seen with my own eye's .

Steve

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Rutherfordton , NC
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bizkit
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 66
posted March 29, 2002 09:52 AM
Steve

Will the dragon slayer and sporstman rods hold up in a flat top, flat tappet 3:48 stroke .30 over motor, will be heads Iron eagles from you guys. Hopefully in the 550 are up HP range. I'm just kind of stuck on what bottom in to use in this engine. I only plan on running this engine maybe 6x times a year RPM will be 7600 to 8000 max. 1/3 to 4/10 mile tracks.

Thanks for your advice on here and if its not pick up your business, then I'm sure it will. You've got a new fan here!

Kelly Hanvey www.dirt-racers.com/hanvey.htm

uforacing51
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 349
posted March 29, 2002 12:21 PM
WOW!!!! Four Pieces!!! LOL That is why spending the extra for the right stuff is a pain but a necessity

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted March 29, 2002 05:42 PM
bizkit ,

Yes the combination that you spoke of will hold up just fine . My best friend is still running his Crower sportsman rods in his open wheel modified after 4 seasons in a 15:1 alky engine with IE's . He has a different crank than the Dragon Slayer though . But I believe that you would not have a problem using the Dragon Slayer in your combo . I would trust it if I were building the engine that you are describing . The only draw back to the Dragon Slayer that I can see , is that it is a little on the heavy side . But for an economy crank , I don't think it can beat for the price .

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
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d4490
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 113
posted March 30, 2002 08:17 AM
What is your opinion on Scat cranks and rods. I hear a lot of people running Scat stuff.

Also, what is the best engine building (horsepower building)reading material on the market? I heard the Waddel Wilson book is one of the best, but I can't find it.

Would like your opinions please.

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted March 30, 2002 10:04 AM
Sorry , I think the same about Scat product's .

As for book's , I really don't have an opinion on them . I can tell you that most of the one's I have heard information from are pure nonsense ! I'm sure though , that if Waddel Wilson wrote a book , it would be worth buying . The problem that I see with book's , is that from the time they are written to the time they are published , most of there information is out dated . Thing's change so rapidly in the engine business , that most book's are published using "old" technology . I think you would be better of asking question's on this forum , or contacting an engine builder directly for up to date tech fact's and up to date knowledge . Hope this helps !

Steve

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
(828)286-0780

d4490
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 113
posted March 31, 2002 01:11 PM
What would you recommend for a buget small block Ford. What crank, rods, and pistons?

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

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posted March 31, 2002 07:23 PM
What type of S/B Ford ??

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
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d4490
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 113
posted March 31, 2002 08:01 PM
I am currently running a 351w, stock block (3.00 main diameters). Also have a 5.0L block sitting on the shop floor.

sdhnc29
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 467
posted April 01, 2002 12:41 AM
Quite frankly I think you have a good budget combo in your 351w . The stock 351w cranks hold up very well , and it is extremely rare to see a cracked or broken one ! The stock rod's are ok if you can find a set that does not have the oil hole drilled through the side , and if you have them shot peened and good bolt's installed . As for piston's , I'd probably go with a set of SRP's and get rid of some piston weight .

If you want to get into changing rod length's , then I'd use the Crower sportsman rod .

I've seen this stock crank , stock rod and forged piston combo a lot , and it seems to be very reliable in street stock , and open wheel modified type division's .

Hope this helps !

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Hendren Racing Engines
Rutherfordton , NC
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ford5
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 298
posted April 01, 2002 06:49 AM
hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm steve, i guess ford may be a more economical way to go than chevy then lol nothing i didnt already know!!

d4490
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 113
posted April 01, 2002 04:28 PM
What about items for a stroker motor? Either 302 or 351w.

charlie_two
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 53
posted April 01, 2002 06:17 PM
i run eagle rods and eagle crank in my mod, this is my first year to run eagle so i am not saying i wont have a problem with them, but my boss runs a 8 second ford mustang putting out almost 800 hp and runs eagle cranks. no problems and his driver shifts at 9500 rpms. thats all he beleives in. he does all of his on machine work and does mine as well.

jammin
Dirt Administrator

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posted April 01, 2002 06:33 PM UIN: 16262997
Charlie, what part of arkansas are you from?

jammin

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