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SkeetRuled
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 48
posted March 26, 2001 01:50 PM UIN: 20599859
Just want to get some input from some drivers and fans.

I am going to assume that 99% of everyone likes to see a purse structure that is well balanced (not 10,000 to win and 80 to start).

So, would a race with a purse like this:

1st. $2,500
2nd $2,225
3rd $1,800
4th $1,500
5th $1,300
6th $1,200
7th $1,100
8th $1,000
9th $900
10th $800
11th $700
12th $600
13th $500
14th $400
15th $300
16th $200
17th $175
18th $150
19th $125
20th-24 $100

that's a $18,025 purse. It would be a 2 night show. Entry fee $80.00 . That would get the car and driver in. Pit Pass $10 and $14 . Grandstand $9 and $12.

80 cars=$6,400
2 crew members=$1,600 and $2,240
300 spectators=$2,700 and $3,600
That comes out to $16,540 total. That leaves $1,485 for the modified purse to be raised. I think a sponsor or 2 and concessions could cover that. Add one support class (like street stock/hot stock) that has a couple area tracks under the same rules and that's just more money.

Modified rules? stick with IMCA?
Time of year? post-season? say early Oct/Nov?

I don't expect to draw the greatest traveling drivers in the country...just want to offer a race that is cost effective for driver and track.

What do you think? It's just make believe...or wishful thinking.

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x13jc
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 134
posted March 27, 2001 07:51 AM UIN: 27426975
www.skylinespeedway.com
they are having what you described in July

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RACERX

A2KY2K88
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 58
posted March 27, 2001 12:10 PM
SKIM A LITTLE OFF THE TOP AND MOVE DOWN. SECOND PLACE, $2000 LOOK HOW MUCH THE GUY IN 15TH IS MAKING COMPARED TO THE GUY IN 7TH. SEE WHAT I MEAN.

SkeetRuled
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 48
posted March 27, 2001 03:36 PM UIN: 20599859
So the bottom is still too light? Fair enough.
Anything else? Would a race with this structure draw 80 cars?

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rjs
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 38
posted March 27, 2001 09:28 PM
Sounds a lot like the Texas Sunday series. If you add IMCA points and a small point fund which is covered by sponsors (Mccreary etc) you can pull 60 cars. They have pulled 80 and still only payed 600 to win and claim poverty.

1) 1500 drops 100 a spot until 9th
10)450 drops 50 until 13)
14)280 drops 20 until 17)
18) to 24 pays 200
this makes every spot except the last six worth something so there is an incentive to pass. If you pay same from 8th to 24 like some big shows it is a boring race.
With the extra money pay last chance races 50 to non-transfer spots

$50 dollar entry fee
$20 per night pit passes
First night locals night get in for $5 seniors$3 grandstands

Second night Children free with paid adult $10 Seniors $3
This will work and make money for most envolved. If racers feel they can at least only lose pit money they will race for the reduced purse. 200 to start a 50 entry fee race is a good deal. We do a break even analysis and see where we have to finish to at least cover fixed expenses. Say two pit passes for two people, two nights and 50 entry fee is 130. We will get 50 back so its 80. To start A should pay at least double this 160 so average guy at least thinks he has a shot at winning. Hay we will race for the 20 a spot, 50 harder, 100 lap after lap. I feel this is a good formula for a successful show. What do you think?

Mike Stout
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 56
posted March 27, 2001 10:25 PM
Sounds almost like the two one day USMTS shows this weekend at Van Buren Arkansas.

Each day is $2,000 to win $200 to start

Full details at http://www.usmts.com

SkeetRuled
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 48
posted March 28, 2001 05:43 PM UIN: 20599859
rjs, it all sounds good to me. the reason the sunday series works so well is because it's on a sunday. i've been to one and was impressed with the car count considering the purse.

question is could this work on a saturday night?

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