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Speed Racer X
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 61
posted February 26, 2003 10:16 PM
We need to mount a small hand held fire extingusher in our car. I don't trust the plastic mount that it came with. Does anybody have any ideas for a lightweight but study mount that will allow fast access if we ever need it. I seen alot of hose clamps and duct tape, but there has to be some thing better. Thanks for the help!!!

rfb320
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Total posts: 43
posted February 26, 2003 10:45 PM
you can also buy all metal clamps for most extinguishers out there. they should work just fine.

racer17j
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Total posts: 1565
posted February 27, 2003 12:12 AM UIN: 54865418
we had a mout out of an rv personally i think it's about dumb to make you carry one if they had a good crew there like we do you shouldn't need one that and the fact that if i'm on fire i'm tring to get the **** out not fumble around with it

ohiodirt
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Total posts: 46
posted February 27, 2003 04:54 AM
couldn't agree more racer17. i think that every track should require at least a suppresion system though. pull the plug and get the @#$% out! although while racing a 4 cyl this past year i saw a car flip over. while everyone ran over to that car and the red flag was dropped, another car opposite end of the track had a fire under the hood while sitting there waiting. was quickly taken care of by another car's fire extinguisher.

Eljojo
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Total posts: 273
posted February 27, 2003 09:51 AM
I had an oil filter blow the "O" ring and spray oil onto the headers and ignite. Made for a monster flame and scared the bejeezus out of me! I slammed the brakes turned left and dropped the harness. By the time the car had come to a complete stop I dove out the window and about broke my neck, landing helment first onto the clay! The safety crew was on the ball and had the fire extinguished before any major damage was done. In my frustration I yanked off the helment and slammed it onto the track, breaking it.....man did I feel stupid!
If anyone knows where I could purchase one of the metal brackets for my fire extinguisher, please let me know. I'm with Speed Racer X on the plastic bracket--I'd hate to depend on one to secure the fire extinguisher in a big roll-over.

racer17j
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Total posts: 1565
posted February 27, 2003 10:10 AM UIN: 54865418
check your local truck stop or rv dealer they will have the metal ones that you flip the latch

marty
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Total posts: 111
posted February 27, 2003 02:01 PM
My friend has had the metal clip break once in a big shunt & in a piece of video footage we looked at afterwards you see the extinguisher exit the car narrowly missing his head at a great rate of pace! We now both use a very simple idea of putting the extinguisher in a aluminium tube,bolted to the cab side (with a bottom on it) then using a ring of rubber cut from a inner tube, just stretch this around it. I think only in a crash where you land hard on your roof it may get out. You can still pull the rubber off pretty quick if you need to as well.
Hope this helps. Marty.

ryan
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Total posts: 430
posted February 27, 2003 09:35 PM
Saw a guy last year who actually does pretty decent have a fire extinguisher clamped to the pass. side door bars with a big hose clamp. Not too bright if you ask me. Ours is right behind the shifter with a steel hold down.

SLEEPY GOMEZ
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Total posts: 199
posted February 27, 2003 10:32 PM
I have never seen a fire ex clamp that could be easily released that I thought was strong enough to hold in a bad crash. When a track requires one in a car, mount it solid where you can reach the handle. Point the nozzle where you think it will do the most good.

By far the best thing is an on board suppression system. The cost is about $325 with plumbing for 2 or 3 nozzles. An easy job. Racers don't want to buy one of these, they will buy a new carburetor instead. Let the wife or girlfriend know about this, if they like you they will get it for you. SLEEPY



uforacing51
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Total posts: 349
posted February 27, 2003 10:50 PM
Also, Keep in mind that the best type extinguisher for the job (fuel fire) is a Dry Chem. If you have ever inhaled that stuff it will just about stop you from breathing. (thats how it puts out the fire, it chokes it) But buying the wrong kind of extinguisher is like doing nothing and if you are delayed in getting out, the effects are disastorious. Halon is the best, but it may be harder to find. Also, the best deal is an onboard system with several nozzles, mounted with exhaust brackets and clamps. Just pull a pin and get out! (PS, the best thing is not to have a fire, and having all the best safety equipment to prevent injuries.)

[This message has been edited by uforacing51 (edited February 27, 2003).]

Flatlander
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Total posts: 310
posted February 27, 2003 11:23 PM
I mount a larger one than most and point the hose at the lower part of the seat all I have to do is pull the pin and jerk the lever I've had to use it twice and was real glad I had it both times

dirtracer7
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Total posts: 106
posted March 15, 2003 06:44 AM
If you want a metal clamp home depot has them for about 6 bucks.I also had mine pointing at the seat,haven't had to use it.Has any body seen a show called real tv? there were a couple wrecks on there that had fires it was a sad deal the dude climbed out fuel was spread 20 feet around the cars and all they had was bottles to try and put it out they never said if he survived or not.The track I run at has a truck with a bunch of large bottles and 5 man trained crew luckily they haven't had to do there job to often.No big fires

racer17j
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Total posts: 1565
posted March 15, 2003 08:28 AM UIN: 54865418
anybody see that add in the new stock car mag they make a bracket that mounts to your seat and has a pull knob and pin that holds it there

ohiodirt
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted March 15, 2003 11:25 AM
a note on halon. there are 2 types. 1211 and 1301. one will suffocate you if you inhale it, the other is alot safer. i forget which one is which but be sure to find out if your going with halon!

jay116
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 25
posted March 29, 2003 10:57 PM
What they tell us in the Navy about Halon is the 1301 is safe to breatb until it gets hot then it becomes poisonuos. We use Halon everywhere in engineering spaces.

Jay

kart99ucar
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted March 31, 2003 06:20 PM
From a firefighter's perspective...

Point the nozzle towards the driver, in an area where you can pull the pin and squeeze the handle in an emergency. The object of this is to keep the driver cool and protected from the flame. A CO2 extinguisher provides the best cooling, and also works fairly well on class B and C fires. Halon and the Dry Chemical extinguishers do their job of putting the fire out by stopping the chain reaction, but they don't cool you down like you really need to be. But if you decide to use them, hold your breath, because the dry chem extinguishers will leave a NASTY taste in your mouth, and the Halon extinguishers will suffocate you, since Halon displaces air and breaks the reaction. Halon is also illegal, at least here it is. It damages the ozone layer 3 to 10 times more than CFCs.

Remember, the car can be replaced, you can't.

[This message has been edited by kart99ucar (edited March 31, 2003).]

eborcim
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted April 02, 2003 02:52 PM
I mounted my dry extinguisher with a metal bracket from Home Depot on the driveshaft tunnel by my seat. I put a looped zip tie on the trigger safety release to allow easier removal with gloves. If needed I can hit the metal clip and release the extinguisher from the bracket and grab it with one hand.

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