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66jj
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posted February 07, 2003 08:24 PM
1. do you still have to run a stock bumper under a nose or is tubing allowed?

2. can you cut of the front frame horns in front of steer box etc?

3. are you really required to run stock oem stamped wheels, or are aftermarket 7 inch ok?

4. can you use adjustable spring spacers? the hidden type legally??

5. is this class really affordable??

6. is this class fun?

the last ? i ask because i have been thinking mod or stock class would be my choice, but after looking at all the rules, i think this class is gonna be more fun, less work, and way cheaper. i say this due to comp limit, cheap heads, cheap tires all the same size so less choices, also no porting etc of heads intake which saves a ton of time over a stock car motor. oh yeah and with the comp limit racing on pump gas is great!!

istock59
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posted February 07, 2003 09:15 PM
Well, I run IMCA Stockcar, but I can answer some of your questions...

1. OEM bumper, no tube.

2. No.

3. A lot of guys run Aero and Bassett 7" rims.


66jj
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posted February 07, 2003 09:53 PM
what i dont get is ive heard you had to run a stock bumper but people are running diff makes etc hows that oem?

i was also told you cant cut out anything like floor supports, etc. nothing but whats listed as ok?

thanks jeff

Jimhobby02
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posted February 07, 2003 10:38 PM
The wheel rule is kind of weird. They have to be 7 inch, dot stamped wheels. Real, Circle and Aero make these. They have the valve stem tucked like a racing wheel but are IMCA Hobbystock legal. You cannot use any type of spacer legally. Try using different height springs. IMCA says that anything you remove should be saved becuase you may have to put it back. Affordable and Racing are oxymorons. This class is the most affordable IMCA class though. IMCA may have the new rules posted on their website. Kirk N. will answer any questions you have as well.

racer17j
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posted February 08, 2003 11:20 AM UIN: 54865418
basicly when imca says oem they mean oem for anything most guys will run camaro bumpers if they can find then or an aluminum 81+ monte bumper mounted upside down works good behind the rounder noses. as for cutting stuff out they mostly get picky about the suport that goes across the floor pan you know that big one we all used to cut out to help clean the car out better.in your area the hobby would be the most fun and affordable we run a version of imca rules basicly the same thing now that they alowed the noses and we can run any stock mount shock not just a bilstein other than that the exact same and anybody can win on any given nite. the guy i started to help years ago has ran everything under the sun but hobby is his favorite class because it's not as ez to get out money'd when you consider the price difference in tire,tranny's only haveing to buy one set of shocks it makes a big difference. if your in the market let me know he has two new chassis for sale up here in webster city.

66jj
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posted February 08, 2003 01:10 PM
i havent seen any racing here yet, but as most on here know i moved from washington and spent about 22,000 within cents, last year racing pavement late model races, 7 of them. tires are expensive, and car upgrades.

i have tons of parts that i saved geared toward the stock car or mod class, like 40 pro welded brg shocks, 18 springs etc. and lots of 383 parts, heads etc. but i dont want to port my good heads, etc or spend all that time, its nuts, in a claimer class to spend that kind of time.

the hobby class seems so affordable to me, i think im gonna build a mopar.

thanks for the offer on the cars, but i build my own, and if i want a chevy metric there are sooo many here for sale its crazy, and cheap in my opinion(2500 race ready) (remember my usual tire bill of 4-1200 a race) lol. but we raced for 1000 to win- 7500.

i just want to have a lot of fun, and this class can keep me from outspending also. not that im one of those that do that.

im figuring with the motor rules a mopar 360 from any parts store with a cam and spring change would be fine, same with a chevy also.

pep will probably claim me if im in the top 4 just because i have a enclosed trailer, and custom suit, painted helmet!!!! thats kinda sad but true.

Also imca rules say you cant go down to this class, i think id like b mod if it takes of, but so far only one track here is running them well see.

later jeff
thanks for the help this is a good board though some get a little testy like its a competition of whos right or not.

racer17j
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posted February 08, 2003 01:45 PM UIN: 54865418
have you held an imca liscens if not they can't prove anytrhing lol

66jj
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posted February 08, 2003 02:47 PM
never had a license, sounds like a lot of fun huh!!!!!!!

jeff

gould
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posted February 08, 2003 09:35 PM
mopar arghhhhhhhhhhhh!!! lol

sixwillwin
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posted February 08, 2003 11:49 PM
The problem with the Mopars around here is picking out a car, the motors usually are plenty good. We have some wicked fast Mopars around here but there all in Chevy frames, and thats not legal in IMCA.

Jimhobby02
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posted February 09, 2003 09:10 AM
If you think this board gets testy, check out whowon.com sometime. Compared to the type of racing you were doing an IMCA Hobbystock should look cheap. Part of the reason that people run metrics is price and availability of parts.

66jj
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posted February 09, 2003 10:16 AM
Ive been looking into the rules, and I dont think mopar chassis are legal.

It says subframe cars have to be 109,most A bodys are 108 and unibody.

71-76 scamp and dart are 111. so they would be legal, but Im guessing around here hard to find not rusted out.

Im assuming the 109 is to keep out camaros, but allow the cadillac with a camaro clip and leaf springs. those too would be hard to come by Im sure.

I can see where the metrics are very plentifull thats for sure. Seems like everyone has several in their yards.

SIXWILLWIN- do you frequent Corning?? Thats the only track ive seen intermarriage allowed.

I go to who won also, it doesnt seem too bad, except for the occasional argument over rules, at corning. but its not a advise or help site like this one.

I really want to race mods, I hate going to junk yards, and junking cars, But Im guessing I would be way over my head right of the bat. With people like Jet etc racing here regularly, it would be like racing where I was and it was quickly becoming less than fun.

later jeff

sixwillwin
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posted February 09, 2003 12:10 PM
Jeff:
I am about 2 1/2 - 3 hours north of Omaha area. We had a no intermarriage rule but it was never enforced, so the MOPAR powered Chevy did good. Last year they cracked down and had to put the MOPARS in a dodge car and they sucked big time. We have some leaf spring Dodges running with the hobbies, but our rules are more liberal than IMCAs and I dont know what model cars they are, but they are backmarkers anyway. later sixwillwin

Jimhobby02
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posted February 09, 2003 05:42 PM
The most heated war of words on who won seems to center around who makes the best chassis. I have also seen quite a few people raked over the coals because they spelled something wrong. I found this board because of Racer17j.

66jj
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posted February 09, 2003 06:39 PM
yeah, Ive seen some decent arguments about chassis.

Whats really funny to me is that a metric with a cage put in it isnt a chassis, no matter whos making it, its still a GM designed car with a cage in it...One chassis everyone is talking about isnt even being welded up on a table,jig, nothing just jack stands.

Id be more inclined to want to know who put the brackets on the rearend, and has the best design, or placement.

SIXWILLWIN, interesting about the mopars chassis.

later jeff

racer17j
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posted February 09, 2003 08:52 PM UIN: 54865418
we had one mopar that was pretty good but if i rember right that was before we went to 9;1 he was using one of those that looks like a late 70's nova not sure what they call um but that what he had he still runs it in stock cars now with a big block but he had alot of tranny troubles. we have one other one in bombers and it seams that every 3 laps of so we are lapping him but i think that lack of nutz more than anything else lol

ryan
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posted February 09, 2003 09:24 PM
Somebody at our track used to run an Aspen (I think)it looked nova-ish.

racer17j
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posted February 09, 2003 11:21 PM UIN: 54865418
i thiunk it starts with a v like a volture or something lol i've seen a nice one that has roadrunner decals and stuff on it at a car show. hey 66 do you plan on hitting denison at all?i was thinking about it if they are gonna run econo and gas prices don't go thru the roof when we make that new parking lot in the mid east

66jj
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posted February 10, 2003 04:16 PM
im going to try to watch at every track within 2 hours at least once, thats at least 6 tracks, denison is one of them, so let me know if you head this way.

jeff

marple
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posted February 10, 2003 07:46 PM
plymouth volare (va-lar-ee)
lol but vulture sounds so much better

racer17j
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posted February 10, 2003 09:10 PM UIN: 54865418
you might want to head up here to webster city on the 29th of march to get a jump start lol we usually have the first show in the state will be imca deery bros late models show and will be running all the other classes also and usually all the big dogs show up in all classes about 125-150 cars we are about 3 hrs from omaha

66jj
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posted February 11, 2003 03:17 PM
first race in nebraska is the week before that at Beatrice..


CAGEMAN
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posted February 20, 2003 11:41 PM
I'll be in beatrice, My dodge will be at home, I will be a pit man. 11k mod

merlinmech2
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posted February 23, 2003 05:09 PM
Winston Mo. has a 2 day race the last weekend in march. Don't know where you're at, but thats not far from corning. When does corning start? Want to go there this year. Normally run eldon or winston on sat. nites.

66jj
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posted February 23, 2003 07:44 PM
heres cornings site
http://www.acspeedway.com/

from what i have heard it isnt ran well, teched well etc..

jeff

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