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loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted September 25, 2002 02:20 PM
I'm in the market for a new wire welder, should I buy a 135amp 120 volt or go with a more powerful one like a 220 volt 175amp? I have a Buzz box for anything over 3/16". Any suggestions? Thanks!

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SLEEPY GOMEZ
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 199
posted September 25, 2002 03:38 PM
Hi Loojack, I built at least six race cars with a Daytona Mig 130 amp 120 volt machine. Did it work, yes. Would I recommend it? Only, if like me, finances dictate. I paid $400 (they sell for about 500 now)for it 18 years ago. The 120v units don't seem to weld as easily or as smoothly as larger units. Also it is harder to make a really good weld with the 120v . When I got my Miller 185 I was amazed at how smooth and controllable the welding process had become. I know I make much better looking welds now. The best thing is right now it is possible to get a Miller 185 for about $1100. My advice is go for the better machine. Then you will forget about the cracker box in the corner. I built my trailer (Circle Track) with the 185 and never used it on the highest setting. Hope this helps, SLEEPY

racer17j
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Total posts: 1565
posted September 25, 2002 04:40 PM UIN: 54865418
i've got a hobart 120v welder and it works just fine for me i'm like you i have the old buzz box i use on the big stuff

loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted September 25, 2002 04:58 PM
Thanks, for the quick replies! I've kind of narrowed it down the the Hobart Handler 135 or the Handler 175(220 volt), because the local welding supplier carries them. Sorry to report my little Lincoln MIG gave up the ghost, great little machine did last 5 years. I guess I had to run it wide open too long. I like the bigger machine because of a longer duty cycle and it doesn't has to be run at the highest setting to weld rollcage tubing. Thanks, again!

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outlawstock17
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Total posts: 620
posted September 25, 2002 07:09 PM
i've got a lincoln sp-250. it's a 250 amp 220 volt machine with the digital front panel. you just set the thickness and the material that you're welding with the wire size you're using and the microprocessor sets the voltage and wirespeed. makes me look like i know what i'm doing! i bought about 12 yrs. ago when they first came out and its been a gem.

racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1565
posted September 25, 2002 07:34 PM UIN: 54865418
the 175 is a good unit too we had one at work thats why i got mine i couldn't afford the bigger one or i would have gotten it

redneck bubbas racing
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 213
posted September 25, 2002 07:51 PM
We have a very current Handler 135 that I use for just about everything. Just kije you I have an old, and I do mean old, Lincoln arc welder in the corner for the heavy stuff. If I could have afforded the 175 I probably would have gotten it. The 135 sure is nice though, you can use it just about anywhere and its real light.

powerglides
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 69
posted September 26, 2002 08:44 AM
The Lincoln SP 170 T is a Great 220v welder for less than $700 I have had mine for 8 years and built 7 race cars with it and never have to pull out the old buzz box I like the lincoln gun its smaller and fits well in race cars it also takes standard tweco parts and tips. I like lincoln stuff so well i bought a plasma cutter and it works great it has high frequency start unlike other models that have unreliable mechanical start.

tilley88
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 353
posted September 26, 2002 02:27 PM
If you can afford it, get the Hobart Handler 175. They go for roughly $700 w/regulator. I caught mine on sale last winter at the local Tractor Supply(TSC) for $650, and they threw in a cart and auto-darkening helmet. I believe they have a website. Keep your eyes open, they may have another sale soon!

4d_POWER
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 43
posted September 26, 2002 03:52 PM
I've got the Handler 175 as well,
good quality welder, even comes with
a Miller Trigger/Tips.
Settings are 1-4, I've never had to use
it on 4 yet!!

$550 off Ebay, brand new w/free shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1771142839
That's where I bought mine, Tollgas did me right!



loojack
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 133
posted September 27, 2002 01:57 PM
Thanks, Guys for all the great info! Looks like the Hobart Handler 175 is the way to go. Thanks again to all!

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