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Author Topic:   New frame vs new shell??
odb93
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posted September 24, 2002 03:01 PM
I have a car that my dad used to run. Here is my delima. The old race car (81 regal) has the cage and weight jacks, seat, stering column, rear end, springs, etc. I also have an 81 cutlass that I can use the shell off of.

My question is which way should I handle this? SHould I take the cage off the regal and drop it in the cutlass? OR take the shell off the cutalss and drop on the regal? In the class I will run in we have to have unaltered floor boards and they do not allow boxing in.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Geffy95x
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posted September 24, 2002 03:07 PM
Put a new shell on your old car ,the amount of work is less but you should stip the newer car for spares ie clip lowers uppers.

odb93
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posted September 24, 2002 03:21 PM
Geffy what is the easiest way to get the body on the frame?

odb93
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posted September 24, 2002 05:32 PM
Sorry let me be a little more vague. The cage is still on the car that I want to put a new shell on.

Would it be easier to cut the frame off then drop the body on then cut off the top and drop the cage back on?

Geffy95x
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posted September 24, 2002 06:02 PM
Everything (doors,fenders) should be swapped to your old car ,you have to cut the rear quarters off with a sawzall and weld them on ,unless your old car has been flipped .thats another story.

LUBEGUY07
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posted September 24, 2002 06:03 PM
if the old frame is still good and straight id leave the cage on th frame and put a new body on it . The way we do it is cut the front window post at the bottom with a sawzaw or if u have a plamsa cutter use it. then cutt the rear quater panals off at the bottom where they meet the floor board and cut again in the trunk area. Depending how well gutted your car is you might need to cut more out like the rear shelf and inner rear quaterpanels ect. hope this helps


Flatlander
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posted September 24, 2002 08:40 PM
OK I'm gonna say this and ya'll are gonna laugh if the floorpan is good I cut the old body completely off I then cut the body off the donor I weld the rear section of the body together and lower it on the car matching the firewall and connecting it as needed I then use alum if I can for doors and then I mount the front fenders and doors

redneck bubbas racing
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posted September 25, 2002 07:56 PM
I have always seen it done the way that Flatlander is referring to. We leave the florrpan on the "keeper" car and remove it from the donor car. This is going to be a lotof work but its usually worth it.

racer17j
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posted September 26, 2002 01:26 PM UIN: 54865418
another way you could do it a regal and cutlas are pretty much interchangeable after i think it was 1980 i know a guy that had a cutlas that he put all regal skins on only real difference is the deck lid hood and rear window opening if you cut it right on the body line and replace the 1/4s you could never tell after a little mud work

odb93
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posted September 26, 2002 01:42 PM
Racer17 that is my plan. I am either switching cage over to the cutlass. Ot taking the shell off the cutlass and dropping it on the regal. No one is going to be able to look at the frame and tell the diff.

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racer17j
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posted September 27, 2002 02:20 PM UIN: 54865418
the frames are the same thing i'm just saying you could take the body panels off one and on to the other then you don't have to mess with the roof and stuff just cut the quarter panels off on the body line and weld them on the old car then put your cutlas doors and fenders on. myslef i'm going to do mine like lube guy said because i'm going from a malibu to a different metric body so i can't just slap another quarter panle on like you can

odb93
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posted September 28, 2002 10:06 AM
The thing is that the old race car (regal) Has no floor pans. Well it has one but it is rusted through.

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The most important thing to remember is that while going faster than everyone is the point..Sometimes turning left helps.

Dunbar
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posted September 28, 2002 12:33 PM
Derek, just get some sheet metal or go to wayne bowen and get some metal from him and cover up where it's rusted. **** the monte carlo the floor pan wasnt worth a **** so i took sheet metal and covered it up and it worked pretty good.

Eljojo
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posted September 28, 2002 09:07 PM
I've read this thread for c coupla days so this morning I went and talked with a guy who KNOWS! He advised cutting the front of the roof off just above the secondary layer of metal that you can see there on the inside of the A pillars. Then cut the rear firewall off right where it turns down toward the floor. Cut the inner fenders out to where they tie in with the firewall down to the floor. You'll be using the origal front and rear firewalls (which both have bars going thru them, the original floorpan, and the roof and rear section from the donor car.

Flatlander
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posted September 30, 2002 09:44 AM
Hmm I beleieve I said that LOL

Eljojo
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posted September 30, 2002 06:38 PM
But he might be like me--unless I hear it from a coupla different people I'm not convinced! Good thing I wasn't crewing for Columbus! LOL...Did you go to Atomic for the $10,000 to win last week?

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