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Chevy#11
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted November 24, 2001 01:47 AM
Where would a beginner start at when building a bomber...something that would be competitive,a good starting point and not bankrupt you...?
what type of body would be best...?

Better to build you own or buy one ready to go...?

How do you go about setting up the suspension..just air pressure and spring rates..?

And what type of motor..what rpms are they usually pushed...what horsepower range..?

Anything else you all can add i would greatly appreciate it...
thanks
travis


racer17j
Dirt Forum Champ
Total posts: 1565
posted November 24, 2001 02:27 AM UIN: 54865418
this is a very broad post chevy it realy depense on what the rules are at the track you will run at but 95 % of the guys on here will tell you the same thing buy a good used car and try it out for a couple years then as you get more seat time and knowledge of set ups and stuff then build a new one. you do have the right idea the biggest "trick " to these cars are shocks and springs and tire pressure. as for the type of car let us know what rules you are running ie. wheelbase engine limits and type of track will give us all a better idea to help lead you in the right direction

Chevy#11
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted November 24, 2001 03:04 PM
here is a site for the track i would run at...
www.portsraceway.com/mdrules.htm#bomber

if you could look at the rules and give a little incite i would appreciate it...
thanks
travis



juni
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 73
posted November 24, 2001 09:38 PM
Find out what cars are winning at your track try and buy a car that ran in the top five if they will sell for a reasonable prise. If they won't then go to some sales , if you are not knowledgable find some one to go with you that is to look it over be fore you buy.And start learning all you can about chassis set up . IF you can't find a car e mail me i know of a couple that are for sale around here but I live in IL.

sideways
Dirt Freak

Total posts: 273
posted November 25, 2001 11:33 AM
Alot of racers at your track will help you also.They would rather pass a car that is under control than have a car that is out of control slid into them.So dont be afraid to introduce yourself and make freinds at the track.Good luck

twleach2
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 44
posted November 27, 2001 04:53 PM
I would have to say that buying a car that has run competively at your track is a lot better than starting from scratch for somebody new to racing. I found out the hard way that it takes a few races before the car starts to handle good enough to be competive. If you can not find a resonable priced car, then I would recommend getting a full frame car vs a unibody. This will save some work and some money. I also would recommend a car with coil springs in all four cornes to allow easy adjustablility. After you get a car, then I would post another question asking for some specific setup tips on the particular car that you choose. I hope this helps.

Chevy#11
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted November 28, 2001 02:39 PM
Thanks for the help...
so what kind of motors are typically run in bombers and what rpm's to they usually crank at...?
thanks again
later
travis

cut_n_up
Dirt Roller

Total posts: 20
posted November 28, 2001 10:04 PM
most are 350's or 355's and a good rpm to run is aroud 6350 to 6500, and that is for a well bulit motor, or that is how it is where i am from

te33
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 46
posted November 30, 2001 11:30 PM
i don't know about were your at,here 355s and 406s rule the roost.i don't want to say this ,especially to a new guy,but this class,and i have raced all up and down the east coast,is generally the worst policed class at the track.the mods and or latemodels get the most attention,leaving us to our own devices.so,i'll say it.if you want to run up front,get out your wallet,and be prepared to do the "c"word.i'm doing it.i win,not every night,but i don't run out of the top 4 or 5.every where i can gain even a small advantage,i do it.shocks springs motor .its not what you read in the rule book,its what you don't.good luck.oh,i turn mine 7000,7200hundred

Donnie Ross
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 109
posted December 02, 2001 07:03 PM
that track is a good one as the rules have
not changed since thge track opened.most of the fast cars are running dart or iron eagle headed 406s however these same fast cars have ran there since it opened and are really dialed in handling wise. the track is slick so a good 355 that will run all year and let you learn and work on setup will do for a couple of years.metric cars are most prevalent but camaro and novas will beat them if you know how to set up a leaf car(easy to hook up) get a good rochester as this is all the rules allow (several people
run severely bored out carbs)a good place to find them is ask guys who have moved up to street stock or mod, use the retreaded tires
one set will last all year barring problems.
several good cars from that track are for sale at this time of year do to front runners building new 6.20 to 6.30 gear, run a glide with hollow convertor see Randy Ross in Vanceburg for details, rules are vague only requiring that convertor is present and car can idle in gear. at least go triple disc with manual.as no wieghts are allowed with no minimum put huge battery in trunk area and heavy Rear frame (hide lead in frame rails) since weight jacks are illegal
use adjustable sway bar link to adjust wedge (or as some do hidden jacks in front spring buckets) with leaf car set with lowering blocks, coil cars use water pump pulleys between spring and mount.anything in the gray area do carefully as they do look.
this class is rough not because of dirty driving but because of high power,hard tires, limited suspension mods allowed, and relative inexperience of some newer drivers, it is a great class to learn in and you will have a ball.

Chevy#11
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 4
posted December 03, 2001 10:53 AM
Thanks again for the posts.

Donnie,
I've been out to Randy's garage...His dad and him were putting the sheet metal in my buddies 55 chevy....Looked awesome when it was done...
Would you happen to know where any cars are for sale at?
thank
travis

Donnie Ross
Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 109
posted December 03, 2001 05:59 PM
see Randy's brother Bob he can find one,has one i think, wayne moffits was for sale, brushcreek has the same rules exept allows 2 bbl holleys and wieght jacks, bob builds killer rochesters for this class and he will help with a good set up for you to start with. tell him donnie sent you

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