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Author Topic:   by the rules
Dirt Newbie

Total posts: 1
posted April 30, 2001 01:07 AM
if a person was to build a car strictly by what the rules say, what chance does he have of being competitive? why is the claim not used more, it seems to be a courtesy among the top finishers, of which are usually the only ones that are allowed to claim, to not claim because they are running motors costing at least 5x the claim $ amount. just wanting to find out how people start out when it seems the deck might already stacked against them.

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 151
posted April 30, 2001 07:13 AM

got ?
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 72
posted May 01, 2001 04:05 PM UIN: 47
He is right put it back on the tralier.The claim is for jokers. I bought motor and car 4 years ago for 2,500. Still using that motor with up keep and freshing up.And run top 5 alot. Can run good with good set up on car helps alot.

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 132
posted May 02, 2001 12:01 PM
I believe you can do it .Alot of times the guys that are putting all the money into a car cannot drive anyway , so they think if they can spend more it will guarante them to run better . If you can drive , then you can drive anything .

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted May 10, 2001 02:08 AM UIN: 111782537
Hey Cobra,I know where you are comin from,this is only my second year and I am not rich.Do what the other fellas have said,learn hoe to drive.It doesn't matter how much power a person has if they can't put it on the ground.Or can't control it.

Pit Bull
Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 42
posted May 10, 2001 09:11 AM
Its not all about money, or how good a motor you have. I know of a person who has almost 3,000 dollars in the bottom end of his motor alone, and my brother smoked him last year with a 350$ junkyard dog motor. Its all about setup and driver skill. A flat topped 350 chevrolet with ported 305 heads will take you a long way. Concentrate on learning to drive and setting up the suspension of your car. As far as the rules go, I know tons of people in my class that cheat the rules on their cars, and It feels really good when you know you have beaten a cheater! Learn to run what you have, and you will go far.

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted May 17, 2001 10:52 PM
They are all right. Another tidbit, it's not what the rules say, it's what they don't say.

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 23
posted May 18, 2001 09:29 AM

I agree with Pit Bull I,ve been there and built the engine. Made it worse, I couldn't set the car up and still can't drive, and junebugs up there telling me about it.

P.S. Money only buys more reliable/stronger parts not horsepower.

[This message has been edited by Flatfoot (edited May 18, 2001).]

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 132
posted May 18, 2001 01:09 PM
Get um hangnail !

Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 29
posted May 18, 2001 07:33 PM
I've been building street stocks for 10 years and have been DQD for cheating twice .
Once for a steering quickner and once for shortening the rear upper trailing arms to gain pinion angle . The quickner was my own fault the track changed the rule and i never took it out . The trailing arm was illegal the week i got dqd and legle 2 weeks latter , neither one slowed us down .
Don't cheat unless your track refuses to police the other cars . And if you must don't spend your money on high dollar motor parts use your money on handling and better traction , when you can drive the car to the motors limits and the car handles like a dream . CLAIM ONE OF THEM BIG KILLER MOTORS , OR BUILD ONE YOUR SELF .. ... I've won with used parts for years .


Dirt Roller

Total posts: 19
posted May 27, 2001 07:03 PM

It's all how you interpret the rules.i.e. my track says no roller rockers...but they say nothing about roller "tip" rockers.See what I mean?

Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 32
posted May 28, 2001 06:21 PM
Same thing, it's still cheatin'!

Dirt Maniac

Total posts: 165
posted May 29, 2001 01:23 AM UIN: 54865418
it's only cheating if you get caught

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 7
posted May 29, 2001 11:53 PM
I've been racing for about 3 yrs,at B-town and I have ran pretty good. The first year I struggled with an old beatup car and old junk motors. I finnaly built a good car and good motor,witch are both 100% legal,its all about getting the car to handle and learning how to drive. You get that down then you can get a better motor. Stay legal

Dirt Roller

Total posts: 14
posted June 10, 2001 10:59 PM UIN: 111782537
After reading all these entries I wonder how the guys that cheat can call themselves good drivers,or have pride in their ability?I am finding out(as this is only my 2nd year)that the most arrogant jrks at the track are illegal.Sooner or later cheaters do get caught.I was feeling the same when I started,how do I compete?But as the expeirence grows so does confidence and ability.My truck is totally legal,2 barrell and all and I'm starting to hang with the big boys(instead of gettin lapped lol).Please keep it legal,if ya got to cheat to win,you don't belong on the track.

Dirt Administrator

Total posts: 3279
posted June 10, 2001 11:03 PM UIN: 16262997
I totally agree.....

One way to prevent this is to educate the officials in the racing aspect of it. If they dont know, they wont know that it is cheating. I have seen this at several tracks I have run at. My two cents.


Dirt Full Roller

Total posts: 50
posted June 11, 2001 11:38 AM
If the rules dont say it than you can do it
unless it says if the rules dont say it its not legal if the car isn't legal i think you should put it on the trailer the tracks we run i think evry car in the front is cheating if you think that bending the rules is ok its about brains and handleing a good motor helps but you have to have the driving ability to put it on the ground
im not saying cheat to win i am saying bend the rules to win hobby stocker knows what he is talkin bout

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